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Re: Frog
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Date: 
Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:01:41 GMT
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Tim McSweeney wrote:
> 
> There are too many things in the world to derive all of them from first
> principals.  I accept all sorts of things that I was taught without
> reasoning through them fully, I suspect you do as well.  If there are some
> issues that we each feel the need to investigate then once again the line
> that defines those issues is up to us to define.

Right.  Mostly because we don't have time to question everything.

> Changing your actions simply because you cannot explain them is stupid.

Thinking about them and trying to explain them is not.

> What do you change your actions to?  The first step is to find a new action
> that makes more sense to you and then change to that.  The important steep
> is not changing from an old "bad" action but moving on to a new "better"
> action.

I agree.  But, you won't ever come up with something better without
questioning the status quo.  To improve you have to be willing to
question yourself.

> I first ate cows because that is what my parents put in front of me.   No I
> realize that I quite like cows, they taste good.  Looking at my teeth I see
> that I am perfectly suited for eating cows, it has no ill effects on me (not
> so for the cow however).
> 
> If I had grown up in a society that practiced cannibalism then I suspect I
> would feel the same way about eating people.

I think that most cannibalistic groups treated it as a special or ritual
treat, not the way most of us treat cow flesh.  You would probably feel
somewhat different about it.

> "but what about the cows/peoples feelings? isn't it bad for them?"

I don't follow what you mean.

> Morals are defined purely by the society we live in, they
> differ, they change and evolve.

Morals in a broad sense might be, but I assure you that my own morals
vary from that of my peers fairly broadly.  I would have to say that in
a personal sense, they are not defined by society.

> wow that was longer than it needed to be.

Oh well.

--
Sincerely,

Christopher L. Weeks
central Missouri, USA



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(...) There are too many things in the world to derive all of them from first principals. I accept all sorts of things that I was taught without reasoning through them fully, I suspect you do as well. If there are some issues that we each feel the (...) (28 years ago, 8-Feb-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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