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Re: This just came across my desk... Iraqi Questions
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:

(warning: the constant use of smileys would get tedious)
:-)

> Subject: Questions
> 
> Do you know enough to justify going to war with Iraq?
> 
> 1. Q: What percentage of the world's population does the U.S. have?
> 
> A: 6%

If them furriners stop a-comin' here, then we woodn't be so crowded-like.

> 
> 2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have?
> 
> A: 50%

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

> 
> 3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
> 
> A: Saudi Arabia

Oily to bed, and oily to rise, makes an arab healthy, wealthy, and wise.

> 
> 4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
> 
> A: Iraq

Scratch the above.

> 
> 5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
> 
> A: $900 billion

Ka-ching!

> 
> 6. Q: How much of this is spent by the U.S.?
> 
> A: 50%

Qualitative, m'boy, qualitative.  That and the only real navy left in the
world.  Also note the figure you quote above on wealth - we are average in
spending our wealth on the military.

> 
> 7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials of
> life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
> 
> A: 10% (that's about$40 billion, the amount of funding initially
> requested to fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

How much does the U.S. spend for that kind of thing in comparison to the
rest of the world?

> 
> 8. Q: How many people have died in wars since World War II?
> 
> A: 86 million

Okay, so where's the statistic saying what percentage of that was caused by
the U.S.?

> 
> 9. Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?
> 
> A: Since the early 1980's.

That we know of.

> 
> 10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical & biological weapons on their own?
> 
> A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government,
> along with Britain and private corporations.

You need to establish that those were provided for that express purpose.

> 
> 11. Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare against
> Iran?
> 
> A: No

After the embassy-hostage affair, did you expect otherwise?

> 
> 12. Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish
> town of Halabja in 1988?
> 
> A: 5,000
> 
> 13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time?
> 
> A: 0

Are you saying that none ever condemned it, or that it took a while for it
to become known, or that any later condemnations were nothing but cynical
shots when it was convenient?

> 
> 14. Q: How many gallons of agent Orange did America use in Vietnam?
> 
> A: 17million.

Are you saying a defoliant is the same as a gas solely aimed at killing
people?  (not that it should have been used in the first place)

> 
> 15. Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and September 11th
> terrorist attack?
> 
> A: No

I think NO!!! would be more accurate.

> 
> 16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf
> War?
> 
> A: 35,000

I guess Iraq should have considered that before invading Kuwait (and how
many civilian deaths were in that country?).

> 
> 17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the western
> forces during the Gulf War ?
> 
> A: 0

You'll have to back that number up.

> 
> 18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S. tanks
> with ploughs mounted on the front?
> 
> A: 6,000

That one, too.

> 
> 19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait
> after the Gulf War?
> 
> A: 40 tons

You are only encouraging Bush with that statistic.

> 
> 20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in Iraq
> between 1991 and 1994?
> 
> A: 700%

If you have a point to make, you should establish the direct link instead of
implying without showing a shred of evidence.

> 
> 21. Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had
> destroyed in 1991?
> 
> A: 80%

And you believe what the U.S. military claimed?!?

> 
> 22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for anything
> other than deterrence and self defence?
> 
> A: No

You mean, are they planning yet another oil grab at the moment?

> 
> 23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10
> years ago?
> 
> A: No

Hey, they are going to war in just a few hours!

> 
> 24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event
> of an attack on Iraq in 2002/3?
> 
> A: 10,000

Iraq is a big place.

> 
> 25. Q: What percentage of these will be children?
> 
> A: Over 50%

War is hell.

> 
> 26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
> 
> A: 11 years

Under UN sanction?

> 
> 27. Q: Were the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998 and
> September 1999?
> 
> A: No

Oh?

> 
> 28. Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between
> December 1998 and September 1999?
> 
> A: 20 million

See!

> 
> 29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing
> strict sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports?
> 
> A: 12 years
> 
> 30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000 births)?
> 
> A: 38
> 
> 31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraq in 1999 (per 1,000
> births)?
> 
> A: 131 (that's an increase of 345%)

That's it, give Bush more cause to go in!  Sheesh.....

> 
> 32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a
> result of UN sanctions?
> 
> A: 1.5 million

And yet more!  If the UN is responsible for all those, then Bush is right to
sacrifice those 10,000 civilians to oust Hussein.  I wish you would decide
if you are for or against this idiotic war-to-be.

> 
> 33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to
> sanctions since 1997?
> 
> A: 750,000

Ibid.

> 
> 34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?
> 
> A: No

Why would he do that in the first place?  Now, if they had actually been
effective....

> 
> 35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?
> 
> A: 300

How many were tipped off ahead of time?

> 
> 36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?
> 
> A: 5

Answer to my question above: 295.

> 
> 37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Baath Party HQ?
> 
> A: Yes

How quickly?

> 
> 38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, "Iraq had in fact, been disarmed
> to
> 
> an undreamed of level unprecedented in modern history."
> 
> A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.

It had the fourth largest military in the world, so that doesn't mean it
still isn't large.

> 
> 39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons
> of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have
> discovered and dismantled?
> 
> A: 90%

In five successful inspections?

> 
> 40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in ?
> 
> A: Yes

With only 5 successful inspections, what has he got to lose?

> 
> 41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
> 
> A: Over 65

How many whaling treaties did Japan violate?  How many cute big-eyed seals
have Canadians slaughtered?

> 
> 42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972
> and 1990?
> 
> A: 30

It was the Godfather: "Hey, here comes Veto Corleone!"

> 
> 44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
> 
> A: 8

Known or openly declared?

> 
> 45. Q: How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?
> 
> A: 0

Did anyone claim otherwise?

> 
> 46. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got?
> 
> A: Over 10,000

Less than half the number the Russians have.  Oh no, a missle gap!

> 
> 47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
> 
> A: The US

What happened to that "the Allies won the WWII, not the U.S."?

> 
> 48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
> 
> A: Over 400

They won't say they actually have nukes but announce that they have 400?

> 
> 50. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about
> things that matter"?
> 
> A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

Yes, but that doesn't mean that one should descend into hysteria.


-->Bruce<--



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