 | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Tim Courtney
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| | | "Doyle Nelson" <doylenelson@(NOSPAM)home.com> wrote in message news:Go24yz.Iy0@lugnet.com... (...) Uhh, where have you been? I understand frustration over the slowness of churning out bulk offerings, but Brad has done nothing short of an amazing job (...) (23 years ago, 9-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | (...) I agree wholeheartedly with the amount of steer this smallish and extremely young (<3 years) unit of TLC has been able to exert, by using its own position within the company and by using the *free* market information we provide. I have a (...) (23 years ago, 9-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) But it's also completely understandable if they don't want to say something like "Um well, the sets that were slated to have lots of sand red weren't doing well on the market and the next ones coming down the pike did poorly in market analysis (...) (23 years ago, 9-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | (...) Which is great for that small percentage of fans who can do that. Not as helpful for the larger percentage who may never get to the park or to a Brickfest-type event. (...) The "LEGO Direct" website? Or the LEGO.com site? (...) But instead (...) (23 years ago, 9-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | Hi Allan - "Allan Bedford" <apotomeREMOVE-THIS@...vista.net> wrote in message news:Go334F.6Ky@lugnet.com... (...) events (...) One of the reasons I strongly advocate more fan-created events, like the BricksWest in the making out at LEGOLAND, and (...) (23 years ago, 9-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) If that's their concern, then it's too late. MegaBloks ProBuilder sets 9760 for $20 and 9780 for $50 include about 150 and 600 grey 2x4 bricks respectively, as well as a number of 1xN grey bricks, tons of grey plates, and a lot more, and (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) In fact the very first "bulk" part requested in this group was the cypress tree, by Mark Herzberg: (URL) when Bulk was defined as "not less than 1000 of the same part? It was that thread. Coming in May 2000. Hey, we got the cypress trees. The (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | (...) there a vote, initiated by the LEGO Company, on the subject of what parts to release in bulk?" (...) wasn't a true 'vote' on the LEGO.com site, I'm not sure that I would put much faith in it representing the LEGO buying public in general. (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Erik Olson
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| | | | | You're right, this was all done by adult fans for adult fans. I was just trying to dig out some of Lugnet's past for you that you might have missed. Lego have used real consumer research at other times (we saw a questionaire at Brickfest for (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | (...) Fair enough. (...) Just curious... did that questionaire ever show up on LEGO.com or even LUGNET? I don't mean to sound glib, but I think it highlights the point that if you're not in the inner circle, you're not really in the game at all when (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Doyle Nelson
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| | | | | | | (...) I couldn't agree more! Doyle (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | (...) At least we had fun, if not very scientific fun, and Brad had fun along with us it seems, along the way to seeing Cypress Trees and the like. Speaking of which maybe I should sneak-order some before my supposed "last Lego set ever (10000)" on (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | "Erik Olson" <erik@olson.pair.com> wrote in message news:Go5rFr.9u6@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) it (...) They (...) I (...) testing (...) which (...) It has been a while and I don't recall which set it came in but I found a small survey (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Surveys —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | "Mike Walsh" <mike_walsh@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:Go5tFr.FHI@lugnet.com... (...) me (...) I've received two of these surveys in set boxes. I've got a cowboy keychain to show for it, which I still use even though it is beat to hell! I (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Richie Dulin
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| | | | (...) Does this mean that you'd put faith in a vote on the LEGO.com site representing the LEGO buying public in general? Interesting. Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 10-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | (...) Yes, that was exactly my point. LUGNET does not represent the whole of the LEGO buying community... only a small percentage who are 'in the loop'. If you wanted real data about what the general public would buy, you would post surveys/votes on (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | (...) Whereas the LEGO site doesn't? Remember the reported increase in sales for the Guarded Inn when it appeared in the Mania magazine? (...) No, if you wanted real data about what the general public would buy, you would survey them directly: You (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | (...) I would be willing to bet a shiny new red 2x4 brick that the LEGO site gets more hits during any given time period than LUGNET. I'm simply saying that LUGNET does not represent the general public, only a small niche of fans. (...) No, I have (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | (...) And I'm saying that LEGO.com does not represent the general public either, only a slightly larger small niche of fans. (...) My mistake, it was the S@H catalog, not the magazine, see: (URL) et al Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | (...) O.K. Let me try to express what I'm feeling in different words. If the LEGO.com site isn't getting at least 10 times the hits/day of LUGNET, then someone is really doing something wrong. Think about it, honestly... when you want to go find out (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Is LEGO listening to it's customers? (was Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ!) —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) [snip] (...) My point is: That people visiting LEGO.com represent a very small portion of LEGOs customers. You've complained that informal polls on LUGNET do not represent the views of the general public. I've said that polls on LEGO.com would (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Troy Cefaratti
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| | | | | | | | "Allan Bedford" <apotomeREMOVE-THIS@...vista.net> wrote in message news:Go5tMG.GAF@lugnet.com... (...) either, (...) LUGNET, (...) I think you are missing Richies point Allen. Even if lego.com gets 1000 times more hits than lugnet.com does, it (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, I think Richie and I guess you, are missing *my* point. I'm only trying to point out that LEGO uses LUGNET as it's internet information distribution point to the exclusion of its own website. Things are announced on LUGNET that do not get (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | | | "Allan Bedford" <apotomeREMOVE-THIS@...vista.net> wrote in message news:Go5y2L.5I5@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) trying (...) distribution (...) [ ... snipped ... ] This isn't completely true. The 2002 catalog scans were provided to FBTB (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Kevin Johnston
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Tim may correct me (don't know if he reads this board, don't care enough to X-post it), but I'm pretty sure the catalog came out of a FBTB reader's Darth Maul or other new SW set, which was then mailed to Tim. The watermark is just Tim's usual (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Tim Saupé
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) In reality, the 'watermark' was placed there at the request of LEGO. I typically only read .starwars, but I do run a search of 'fbtb' every now and then to see what's being said and saw this. (23 years ago, 27-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | | | Allan Bedford wrote in message ... (...) reply (...) were (...) The surveys are still appearing in sets, I have had some within the last few months. Don't remember which set(s) they were in. Over the last 3 years I have sent in several and handed (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | (...) That also came up in Brickfest Q&A. Sales of Guarded Inn exploded as soon as marketing assets reached general public beyond LUGNET. You know, I realized last week that not even Larry (who was typing to IRC) compiled a report on all that. We (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Tim Courtney
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| | | | My apologies if this message ends up getting posted twice. I really wrote this several hours ago via my newsreader, used the message confirmation via email, but the server hasn't posted it yet. "Richie Dulin" <rdulin@mailandnews.com> wrote in (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | (...) As I mentioned in another follow-up to this thread... the website is already there, why not at least collect *some* free data? To not do this is simply a wasted opportunity. (...) Why go there, when they make big product announcements on (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | (...) Agreed. Its still not an accurate cross-section of the entire LEGO customer base ;-) Nonetheless, it would only benefit them to make more surveys available. (...) Good point. I don't know so I can't say - what product announcements have they (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Benjamin Medinets
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| | | | | | (...) I agree......I visit the site just to see if there is any update...which to me is sad, because they rarely do. It seems to me they spent big bucks implementing a decent web site, but decided to make do with sporadic updates. If they really (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | (...) The front page of LEGO.com should be updated no less than once a week, and preferably more often. How many of us enjoy CNN.com, or CANOE.com or LUGNET.com because the content changes so regularly? LEGO should make their website *the* (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | (...) [snip] (...) But according to your estimate, LEGO.com already gets 10 times the hits of LUGNET. Clearly, it is *the* destination of choice. Doing 10 times better than the nearest competitor would seem to be pretty good, wouldn't it? Cheers (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | (...) You have a point. I guess I should really try to make myself understood better, it seems my points are getting lost in this thread. Not sure why, I usually have no trouble making myself understood. My point was... that event though LEGO.com (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | (...) LUGNET is (part of) the competition for LEGO focused internet time. It doesn't need to be selling anything. Cheers Richie Dulin (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | (...) So they make product announcements on a website that is drawing visitors away from their own site? I ask again... does this make business sense? Help me understand your point Richie, you've lost me. :) Regards, Allan (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) LEGO know that (say) ten times as many people end up at LEGO.com, but another small but significant group end up at somewhere else. Now, maybe LEGO.com could become LUGNET Mk2, but we may not like the implications of that happening. They (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Allan Bedford
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) O.K. So far so good. (...) Mk2? You lost me again. (...) You're probably right. But having a chat forum on their website wouldn't be breaking any new ground. Martha Stewart has them. How does she deal with negative comments, and you know there (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Richie Dulin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ummmm... offering the same facilities as LUGNET? So fans would hang out at LEGO.com rather than LUGNET? (...) Actually, I don't. I've heard the name mentioned, but haven't a clue what she does. Sorry. (I guess I could go to marthastewart.com (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) The fans who "hang out" here are mostly adults. Some of us even use adult words from time-to-time. I expect that if we were to see a discussion forum on lego.com it would be aimed at a younger market. Lego would be crazy if they were to design (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care? (WAS: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS?) —Mike Timm
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| | | | | | | | (...) One way of looking at it is thus, we here on Lugnet tend to hardcore, rabid fans that once we see an announcement HERE, tend to go there soon after (for the pictures man! :^) At the very least I know that I tend to go there to confirm that (...) (23 years ago, 18-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | The Lego Website [was: Re: LEGO... are you out there? Do you care?] —Thomas Garrison
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| | | | | | (...) I'll agree that lego.com isn't terribly interesting. . .the only part I might have been interested in was looking at the Castle stuff, which specifically is not viewable without going through a Flash waste-of-time (which doesn't seem to like (...) (23 years ago, 13-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: WHY SO LONG ON BULK BRICKS???? LEGO PLEASE READ! —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | Tim Courtney wrote in message ... (...) Yikes, Tim. If they included a retailer code on the S@H lit in the boxes, they would have to decide *before packaging the sets* how many would go to each retailer, and then somehow identify the sets for each (...) (23 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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