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Re: Why do you love bley?
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lugnet.color
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Thu, 10 May 2007 09:31:02 GMT
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In lugnet.color, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I think you misunderstood my request. I wanted evidence, not a description of
your ability to match gels in theater work.
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It has been a few years since I was actively working in theatrical lighting, I
don’t have ready access to my lighting design texts, I don’t have the color
temperature chart memorized, and I don’t have access to any type of
spectroscope. I can’t tell you the specific color temperature of the basic LEGO
blue color, but I can tell you that it’s not primary blue. I also can’t tell
you if the pantone values of the official LEGO colors account for the milky tan
tint that natural ABS has, or if they are just the color values of the pigments
before they are added to the plastic resin. So how about you prove to me that
the bleys do look better with the majority of the LEGO color palette,
particularly to someone who is not red-green colorblind, such as myself. Or
follow my suggestion and take a blue brick to a paint store that can do
color-matching, and have them give you the results. That way you could know for
sure that I wasn’t falsifying the results just to “suit my purposes”.
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Considering that I have sat around tweaking rendering settings I’m well aware
of this. I’ll rephrase it for you and hope you will maintain the same high
standards in subsequent descriptions of colour. “(but perfectly fine with
fresh off-white with the pantone colour CoolGrey1C or the RGB triplet
242/355,243/255,242/255)”
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Now, have you verified that this is accurate over a wide range of monitors, or
are you just going by how it appears on your own? Is your monitor accurately
tuned in, or does it lean towards the blue as is very common with computer
monitors? Because, frankly, I’ve never noticed any greenish tint to LEGO white,
as your numbers seem to suggest you do. But maybe that’s an issue with your
red-green colorblindness.
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Do you mean the bricks contained in a translucent plastic box with coloured
background imagery and usually its own lighting or models sitting out for the
children to handle? Because if it’s the former I’m sure you’ll understand
with your excellent grasp of colour theory that the external store lighting
probably has minimal effect on what you see through the plastic.
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I’m sure you’re aware that acrylic is an optically clear plastic, and therefore
WYSIWYG. The display box covers do not change the look of the plastic at all,
excepting that the corners and edges will necessarily cast shadows that would
not be present in an uncovered display, and any curved sections will distort the
light as it passes through. And since many of these display boxes do not have
any places to install lighting fixtures (being that they just have a clear
canopy mounted over them, and they’re sitting on the top shelf of the stack),
in-store lighting is the only source of lighting that could possibly affect the
look of the plastic. But if you think the look of the plastic is so
significantly changed, take a light-grey brick and a light-bley brick with you
the next time you go peruse a LEGO aisle and see what they look like in the
open. And even if they do have built-in lighting fixtures, it’s very likely
that they are also cool-white flourescents, and therefore should be nearly, if
not exactly, the same color spectrum as the in-store lighting, depending of
course on the manufacturer.
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Message has 2 Replies:
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| (...) So basically your entire argument isn't based on any sort of colour theory but your own opinion. Why then, did you try to bring up a theory you could neither provide evidence for or even discuss? (...) I don't need to prove anything. My (...) (17 years ago, 11-May-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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| (...) Who can argue with evidence this compelling? (...) Ah, the ol' Burden of Proof Switcheroo. Ballsy. (...) That, or the insanely flourescent lights in his house. (...) Hmmm... Interesting, (...) That's a long way up, but I'm sure Toy'r'Us know (...) (17 years ago, 11-May-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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| (...) I think you misunderstood my request. I wanted evidence, not a description of your ability to match gels in theater work. From your response it seems to me that you have a bare minimum knowledge of colour theory which you're twisting to suit (...) (17 years ago, 9-May-07, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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