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  Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies
 
(...) Please Do!!! -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 4x4x3 cone! (was: Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies)
 
(...) Yes it really is - and yes I have two in white. Chris (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: 4x4x3 cone! (was: Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies)
 
(...) That's the set I got mine from as well. The rocketbase set was perhaps my most desired set during my early childhood that I didn't end up getting. - chris (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: 4x4x3 cone! (was: Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies)
 
(...) Yup I've just checked it (I have two of the cones from the 725 freight train) (URL) the cone is three bricks tall, the size 4x4x3 is correct. -Frank (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: 4x4x3 cone! (was: Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies)
 
(...) I do, but it's back at my mom's house in the SF Bay Area, and I'm here in sunny Cambridge, MA. If memory serves, it is indeed three bricks tall. It's a cool piece, and I'm surprised TLC has never brought it back, since they seem to have a (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.build)
 
  4x4x3 cone! (was: Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies)
 
(...) Whoa! Wow! (URL) learn somethin' new about LEGO every day! :) --Todd p.s. Question: Was it really 3 standard bricks tall (most likely) or perchance was it just shy or just over 3 tall? Anyone got one for real? (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.build)
 
  Part 30358: SW Landspeeder Engine
 
Hi folx, I recently discovered that I've had this part 95% complete for a while now. I don't have time (nor will I in the forseeable future) to complete it, so I was wondering if any competent parts authors would like to finish it off. If anyone is (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Reference Site Inconsistencies
 
(...) [snip] (...) Yes, this was used as the nose cone for the rocket in 358 (Rocket Base) and is also in 230 (Salon Colette). So I guess I ought to model it !! Chris (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDAO 2.1.0 still beta?
 
Anyone know whether LDAO 2.1.0 is still in the "beta" stage? It's not up on Steve Bliss' LDAO page as the current version. What bugs still remain? James Wilson (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Reference Site Inconsistencies
 
I was cross-checking some information between LDraw/Partsref, Lutz Uhlmann's Parts Reference, and James Jessiman's Unofficial LEGO Parts Listing. I was specifically looking at the parts with number less than 1000[1], because I need to get a better (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: getting started making pieces
 
(...) Welcome - new part authors are always welcome. The following is my preferred method of doing decorated parts as is a good grounding if you go on to author complete parts - others have had some success with BMP2DAT for decorated parts. 1. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  getting started making pieces
 
A naive question perhaps, but I can't find the answer anywhere... I want to try my hand at making parts for ldraw, specifically I want to make minifig faces and torsos that haven't been done yet. What program(s) do you wizard-types use to make the (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Update 9906
 
(...) for (...) sample (...) Yes you're right, and I've done enough torsos that I should not have made such an error. Chris (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Update 9906
 
(...) You're right, I gave that suggestion some time ago. The subpart only had the back surface when it was using the old number. Leonardo (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: part 2951, some questions  [DAT]
 
(...) I will centre between the lower pegholes then. (...) Goood:) (...) correction: I will not put the measurements up, as they are changing as I get along. Look below for more on this. (...) As of now, it looks like the worst part is figuring out (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Update 9906
 
(...) I got the fixes. Thanks for the rapid turn-around, Chris! About 973s01 - I don't remember if this subfile ever had a back surface. The name does clearly state that there's no back: "~Subpart Minifig Torso without Front or Back". IIRC, the back (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) (rereading what I wrote) Uh, durrr, that came out as hogwash, didn't it. I meant, if the pages that are created dynamically happen to come out the same as though they had been served statically (IOW, if it's static content generated (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) Yes. That AND the sort of data you are fetching. In certain cases, a DB engine that has cached the results of queries, coupled with a requesting program that can use the results straightaway, can be faster than a raw filesystem, even if the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Update 9906
 
(...) Looks like both John and I mistakenly assumed that s\973s01.dat is the torso missing the front surface - in fact it is missing the back as well to cater for those rare torsos with decoration on the back. I sent a corrected version of 973p34 to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) I have to wonder about that assertion in a really skeptical way. In either case, assuming the filesystem and the database aren't poorly written, the amount of RAM in the server is really the gating factor. If you have 50 MB of static files and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: part 2951, some questions
 
(...) I'd say that's a good place to put the origin. On the other hand, the user is fairly likeliy to tilt the bucket off an axle in either the upper or the lower pegholes, so centering the part in the centre of either the upper or lower pegholes (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Update 9906  [DAT]
 
Hi, I was looking at the new parts and discovered that 2 torsos (973p34 and 973p101) are missing some faces from the back. It's not a big deal but it should be fixed on the next update. Also, 4522 (Minifig Tool Mallet) has some blue faces: 1 1 0 0 (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
Tim: [ About instructions from non-Lugnuts. ] I wouldn't let non-Lugnuts post to Lugnet through ldraw.org. We should rather let them upload to ldraw.org, and let the OMR editors post the instructions to lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets if they qualify. To (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  parts DESPERATLY wanted
 
I a,m desperate for the black seas baracuda pirate ship hull pieces in any form, mock-up,stand-in or whatever. I don't care how crude the dat files are, I just need them for several projects including my greek trireme warship. Oh and I need the oar (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  part 2951, some questions
 
I've managed to measure the 2951, and now I have a few questions. What is the preferred place for 0,0,0? I'd say exactly between the pegholes, but this is, as you know, my first piece, so enlighten me if I'm way off. Beneath every tooth, there is a (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Division by Zero on startup of LDraw or LEdit
 
(...) It should be in the FAQ: (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  8-wide boat hulls
 
Does anyone have the 8-wide boat hull pieces for ldraw? -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Division by Zero on startup of LDraw or LEdit
 
(...) There is a fix somewhere for this problem, I assume you are using a fast PC? I don't know the url, sorry. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw DAT certification for clones?
 
(...) Borland Pascal, Borland C/C++, and Microsoft C/C++ all use the IEEE format for floating point numbers (float, double and extended are all IEEE defined) because these are the formats supported by the 80x87 line math coprocessors. (Even though (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Division by Zero on startup of LDraw or LEdit
 
I recently downloaded these and any attempt to run them on my machine gives a Runtime Error #200. I looked this up and it's a division-by-zero error. I have several versions of the BGI files, some came with other software, some with Borland Pascal, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New Program I am making
 
(...) I was recently told by Steve Bliss that the updated parts.lst file is included in the official updates. Fredrik (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  The parts tracker
 
I am thinking about setting up a new parts tracker (since the old one is gone). I will also create a matching sets tracker for posting of info on which TLG sets have been modeled. Sets will dissapear off the tracker after they are in the OMR. Both (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) On the same note, the download of the parts zip file was faster than downloading the gif preview... --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New Program I am making
 
I might be making a new program. It will be a program to take a ldraw .dat file and identify if there are any parts used in the model that are unofficial. How will it do this? It will use the official parts.lst files posted every update. What I need (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) My mirror site is updated. I don't have a parts list made, but I get the feeling that mainly people just grab the parts and go anyway, so probably won't get around to doing it unless I can find it already made someplace else. (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Element Count Trivia
 
"2,172 is the total of different moulded elements in 1999. There are 97 LEGO PRIMO elements, 399 LEGO DUPLO elements, 157 LEGO SCALA elements, 903 LEGO SYSTEM elements, 357 LEGO TECHNIC elements and 137 LEGO DACTA elements – and that’s not counting (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.faq, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.general, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) Great new millennium news, and thanks Steve for putting this together. Thanks too to Terry for managing the previous official updates, and seemingly handing over to Steve in an organised manner. Looking forward to 2000-01 ... Chris (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) Don't worry, the site just came back up, blame it on y2k. Looking at the preview picture, I see a large number of my parts... Obviously there are enough people out there who think I am good enough at making parts to get them in. The battery (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) Can someone please post this new exe file and associated gif image with pictures of new parts to a server other than ldraw.org? I cant get to ldraw.org at the moment and always seem to have problems getting there. (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) Thanks Steve!! [...] (...) Sounds good to me. We also need to work on completely phasing out the memorial pages on GeoCities, which exist behind the 'page has moved' index.html still. -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  ldraw.org Model of the Month - January 2000
 
I'm getting this month's MOTM winner a little bit early. Ah well, its 2000 in certain parts of the world :) 6 hours to go here. Birger Garbe is the winner for January with his Tower of Bricktown model. Congratulations Birger! (URL) Courtney (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
(...) Thanks! I can finalyy throw those pieces out of my model/ folder :) --Bram (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDraw: New Parts Update Available
 
A new parts release has been posted to www.ldraw.org. You can find it here: (URL). This update is called 99-06. In my part of the world, it's still 1999, so we made it just in time. Those of you already on the other side, happy Y2K! But the update (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Trying to do part 2951 bucket for Rock Raider
 
I have made a very, very simple mockup for this part. It is available here: (URL) am pretty certain that I have gotten the measurements of the vertices of the parts fairly exact, but there are still lots of details that need to be filled in. If you (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Trying to do part 2951 bucket for Rock Raider
 
I've failed to locate the parts tracker. Is anyone working on the bucket for Rock Raider set 4950. looks like it says part no. 2951??? If not I'll see if I can figure it out, being my first part I'll probably have a lot of questions during the (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  request - part number (LDraw) - 4x6 flag
 
Hi! A while ago, I posted an unofficial LDraw file for the 4x6 flag ("(URL) (This part, the 4x6 flag, was used in Lego Pirates.) In order to submit this new DAT file for inclusion into LDraw, I'll need an "official" LDraw part number. Would whomever (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Pattern #'s
 
(...) The are no fixed rules, as the pattern numbers are specific to LDraw - they're not TLG reference numbers. So generally, first-come-first-served, but where the same pattern appears on several parts (like some of the P68s - M:Tron) an attempt is (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Pattern #'s
 
OK, after just getting into this, and finally getting the hang of how part numbers are found, I've hit another snag. I pulled out an old set (circa 92) and found a part that was printed on that wasn't in the parts list. I'd like to "dummy" it up in (...) (25 years ago, 29-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Motorbike Part
 
(...) Hi Richard Nowadays, the four- or five-digit part numbers are moulded somewhere on the larger parts, but be sure not to confuse these with mould reference numbers which usually comprise a one-digit and a two-digit separated by a space or a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  ldraw.org reference
 
Tim Courtney. prepare to drewl... here is a zip file of REFERENCE. for ldraw/ledit for colors, and a beginning on parts reference. one more thing.. me have no phone so no internet (poo) im coping with the pain (wipes tears from eyes) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Motorbike Part
 
Dear All I was wondering if anybody knew of the motorbike part for LDraw as it would be very helpful to me. Also how do you find original part numbers from lego bricks if anyone can help me with this please reply yours sincerly Richard M (...) (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New ldraw.org Feature Article - BFC Extensions
 
I just updated the ldraw.org Feature Article to a short BFC Extensions teaser by Jacob. Also, all future Feature Articles will appear at (URL) and the past articles will be archived there as well. -Tim (25 years ago, 28-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: MOTM Voting Online
 
Tim, Are the DAT files for the MOTM available for download? James (...) (25 years ago, 27-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  MOTM Voting Online
 
Voting for the January ldraw.org Model of the Month competition is now online. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 23-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
(...) Possibly. You could always ask. If not, just put up a page for it on your website when you make it. (...) Soon...probably in the next few days. There's a Parts Reference ready to go up, but we gotta get final approval on re-publication of it (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
(...) about (...) cool (...) on (...) slot (...) it. I agree. The only way it fits into the ldraw.org page is that the image is pov-rayed. I think that Lugnet would be a much more appropriate place for it but I doubt Todd would go for it. Ryan PS I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
(...) :) (...) Sounds like a nice idea. The only think I see that might be strange about it is the feature article section IMO should focus on Lego CAD items, cool new LDraw stuff, new standards, etc. Steve, Jacob, and I were planning on putting up (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
(...) well (...) site has (...) cluttered (...) Topics (...) Awards. (...) in (...) rail (...) him and (...) COOL!! I'll have to check it out later. (...) Hopefully (...) has (...) If you really want to get rid of the MLCad article(personlly I'm (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) Nope, not a joke. I seriously didn't remember the reason(s) why other approaches wouldn't work as well as INVERTNEXT. I poked around old messages a little bit, I think I remember better now. Let me (attempt to) explain: When this whole BFC (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Dat format question - Quad line order
 
"Johannes Keukelaar" <johannes@nada.kth.se> wrote... (...) Yes. (...) It is known as a bow-tie quad, and is found many places! (...) Yes, this is sadly the way they are ordered in many files. Another problem is that the four points may not be (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Dat format question - Quad line order
 
(...) You are correct that the co-ordinates _should_ define a simple loop without crossing. The rendering algorithm in the original LDraw program was not sensitive to this, so errors crept into the parts files. There was a move some time back to (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Dat format question - Quad line order
 
Hi all, I've read the LDraw FAQ relating to the .dat file format. Specifically: --BEGIN-FAQ-- Quadrilateral command. Draws a four-sided, filled shape between four points. Line format: 4 colour x1 y1 z1 x2 y2 z2 x3 y3 z3 x4 y4 z4 where colour is a (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
(...) Replying to my own post, ugg.... Just forgot to mention that Tom Burger is to thank for the minifig images. Thanks Tom!! -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  ldraw.org General Update, Added Press & Awards
 
I just finished doing some general housekeeping updates to ldraw.org, as well as adding a new Press & Awards section. This section will feature press articles which have been written about LDraw/ldraw.org and awards the site has won (only one of (...) (25 years ago, 22-Dec-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: parts.lst and mklst(?).exe.
 
"LZ" == Leonardo Zide <leonardo@centroin.com.br> writes: LZ> The default behavior is to be case insensitive but you can set an LZ> option to make it case sensitive, take a look at the man page for LZ> mount. Ah. Thanks for the tip, that would be (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: parts.lst and mklst(?).exe.
 
(...) The default behavior is to be case insensitive but you can set an option to make it case sensitive, take a look at the man page for mount. Leonardo (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) I do, it's because of those cases like an hollow cylindir DAT file is referenced by another DAT file. Since the cylinder is supposed to be define outwards, but you can use it to make the inside/outside of a stud (for example) and the if the (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote... (...) :-) Jean-Pierre's analyzer is not a "simple analysis" and may not work 100% correctly without human intervention. /Lars (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote ... (...) Is this a joke? You argue very well in "Inversion" in "Language Extension Functionality" about the 3D tube ;-) /Lars Sorry if I missed a pun. (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: parts.lst and mklst(?).exe.
 
Johannes Keukelaar wrote... (...) It does work, you can open either 1234a.dat or 1234A.DAT, or even 1234a.DaT. The fat/vfat/msdos filesystem in Linux is case-insensitive. Try it! (...) Pure MSDOS programs see all files in uppercase. /Lars (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: parts.lst and mklst(?).exe.
 
(...) I believe that straight-DOS programs don't have mixed-case filename information. A pure DOS hard-drive actually stores all filenames on the harddrive in upper case, and MSDOS under Windows maintains upper-case-only for compatibility with older (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: General Comments to MLCad
 
(...) Yep. LDLite does things like 0 COLOR <color definition information> along with other stuff, and the HTML instruction generator in LDAO recognizes a subassembly statement: 0 SUB <file> <layout options> and in lugnet.cad.dev, we're proposing to (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) In that case, why are we wiggling about with this BFC extension stuff? Rendering programs can figure out what order vertices should be put in, and they can figure out which way a polygon is facing. They don't need all this extra effort from us (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
(...) Matrix-inversions are not evil. But for some reason, using them to actually invert subfiles is evil (as opposed to using INVERTNEXT to invert subfiles). If I reallly needed an answer to this, I'd go read past messages. But I *do* remember: a) (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ldraw.org parts refernce list..
 
(...) LOL, gosh Tommie [1], just cause I said 'it doesn't phase me' on AIM regarding different (diminutive) spellings of my name, doesn't mean you have to go public and address me as that ;) [1] <ducks, runs> :) -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  parts.lst and mklst(?).exe.
 
Hi all! The other day I was working a bit on a program that can parse dat files under linux. Now, I have my dat files, along with ldraw and mlcad installed on a Windows partition. All the dat files that come with the ldraw package and updates there (...) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  ldraw.org parts refernce list..
 
i am making a parts reference list for timmy / timothy / tim ( :)--- ) c. there are parts i know, that are not on lutz list, and are not in ldraw. if anyone has some part #s please mail them to me? (those are MOSTLY in 30000 range) (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LGEO homepage ?
 
(...) I've just tried to access the page and it's working again. Leonardo (25 years ago, 21-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand  [DAT]
 
Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote... (...) (snip) (...) Why? Are you thinking about 1 16 -4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 1-4disc.dat The determinant is zero, which BTW causes POVRay to halt ("singular matrix"). L3P has to fix these matrices or POVRay would not render (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LGEO homepage ?
 
Todd Lehman wrote on December 17th: (...) I have tried to get in contact with Lutz for the last two months regarding LGEO+L3P. None of the mails were bounced, latest attempt was 15. december - the day before Todd's mail was bounced. /Lars (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Line in the Sand
 
Steve Bliss wrote... (...) I think this is a possible, but rare case. It can, however, be circumvented by regarding DAT files from PARTS as special. (...) Why not? Any information you can gather by simply analysing a DAT file should not be required (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: General Comments to MLCad
 
(...) Ahh, "tagged" information then, in other words? :) Cool....... --Todd (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: The updated PARTS.LST online?
 
(...) Try (URL). It's not searchable (yet), but it is browseable. Steve (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: General Comments to MLCad
 
(...) It would be better (IMO) to format non-LDraw information as LDraw-style meta-commands, and keep everything in the DAT format. That gives the file the widest transportability between programs. Steve (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: The updated PARTS.LST online?
 
(...) It is? Well, duh. Thanks for the info. Anyway, I still think that a browsable parts.lst could be a good idea. Sometimes I have the need to look up a part name or number when I'm not on a system with LDraw on it, and I think perhaps others may (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: The updated PARTS.LST online?
 
(...) An updated parts.lst is included in every parts update. Steve (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Datsville on ldraw.org? (Was: Re: OMR Planning - Almost There)
 
The suggestion has come up to host Datsville on ldraw.org. I understand it is comfortable on Lugnet, but I'm willing to entertain the idea if the rest of you (namely John) are. Please look over the following discussion and reply accordingly. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) Yep. (...) Ok, I wasn't thinking that one. What about something silly like OMR Model Author ID numbers? A model author can register first and if they're a LUGNET member they put their LUGNET member number and password in, and it brings up all (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: The updated PARTS.LST online?
 
(...) Sounds like a good idea. Would /download/updates/ be appropriate for this? And does anyone have a non-butchered current parts.lst (unlike mine) they'd send for this? I'll get it up at least by Thursday, when I update the MOTM voting. -Tim (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  The updated PARTS.LST online?
 
I think it would be a good idea to make the updated PARTS.LST file be available online as new releases are made. I know that the PARTS.LST file should be remade on the local system as the new parts are installed, but I still think it would be nice (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: hex values (was: Re: Loader)
 
This seems to be a bug, I will look at it, beside this I will take over the strategy suggested by Bram with using COLOR meta commands ... Michael Will Hess wrote in message ... (...) in (...) (25 years ago, 20-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: hex values (was: Re: Loader)
 
Michael, I can understand the need to use hex to define custom (non-TLC produced) colors, and I'm sure that you'll find a way to fix this. What I'd like to know is why the transparent versions of the standard colors are now saved in this manner. Now (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: Loader)
 
(...) I suggest defining the custom colors the way LDLite does, ie: 0 COLOR ... That way, you can still use the color numbers in the .dat lines so that the file will still work in LDraw and LEdit, except that the colors will be off. --Bram Bram (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) Maybe that's where the model editors would come in. But it's a headache nonetheless. (...) I was thinking along the lines of people impersonating others. But there are probably other rules too... (...) I was thinking that if you want ldraw.org (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: General Comments to MLCad
 
(...) Could you avoid writing out the file as a ".DAT" file extension if you are making extensions to the long established LDraw DAT file format? This would clear up confusion right away and avoid further incompatibility issues if other LDraw-clone (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: hex values (was: Re: Loader)
 
I thought LDLite is able to display this colors! If this is realy a problem I can change this to use comment lines defining these custom colors! Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) Hee. :) (...) Yeah. (...) We could ask for all the model info, and the server will create the header with the submission. But then what about submodels? They'd need to have headers cause we can't have a bazillion fields for the separate (...) (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  hex values (was: Re: Loader)
 
(...) Wonderful. So why does MLCad insert nonstandard data into LDraw DAT files? --Todd (25 years ago, 19-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) faux pa (although the "paw" bit is funnier) (...) Unfortunately, not everyone is going to get the model header right, so you'll probably need (required) fields for name, email, etc. The only problem is that you most likely want a comments (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
 
  Re: OMR Planning - Almost There
 
(...) [snippety-poo] Good additions to the list. I think both our lists of rules need to be edited and refined for clarity before being published. And then examples added... (...) anyone?? That sounds like a good idea if that's what you and Jeff (...) (25 years ago, 18-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)


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