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| | | (...) Let me be the first to say HOLY (expletive deleted for your protection) The ability to buy any piece in any quantity in perhaps any color is truly mindbendingly awesome. 2002 won't get here soon enough. Wow. Adrian -- www.brickfrenzy.com (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | (...) Where precisely did you see this? I tried to scan around through various links from the main links that began this thread, but did not find anything along the lines of the above comment. Plus, what can I say, a lot of the content at those (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | "richard marchetti" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:G54K0r.7vy@lugnet.com... (...) truly (...) anything (...) you (...) It is described on this page: (URL) is pretty amazing IMHO. Mike - mike_walsh@mindspring.com (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | | | (...) I nearly missed it myself! Go back to (URL) scroll down. There should be 3 "blocks" of text, in orange, green, and purple. Click on the orange block "Online LEGO users design their own sets" and you'll find the relevant text on that page. This (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Chris Leach
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| | | | | | | | (...) Hmmm,hey Tom does this mean we can design and order sets with garage doors?Or sets with dare i say MONORAIL! (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Well, as exciting as this is (and it's a HUGE step in the right direction -- one can see that at last TLC is starting to "get it"), one has to wonder at the limitations. I presume that the software/sets will be limited by brick type and color (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Richard Noeckel
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) My sentiments exactly!! (...) Price my also be a factor... Sincerely, Richard Noeckel You can reach me @ SHROUD_OF_KUNG_FU@Hotmail.com -Lego good, Canada great-® (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Alrite!! I can finally 'design' a Metroliner and order all the bricks on-line. And how about all those classic space sets that are missing from my collection.... Mark "my bank-account sgonna faint in 2002" de Kock (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Kevin Zwicker
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| | | | | | | | (...) I think that TLC will guard against this by limiting the number of elements included in the software. For example, if this software includes a database of say, 1000 parts (a wild guess), our personalized instructions will not be able to (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Suzanne D. Rich
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I think one limitation will be related to the molds required for piece production. If the particular mold no longer exists, for example. But I'd bet that strong demand from consumers (like us) will bring out some fun pieces. -Suz (fingers (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, I'm pretty sure that'll be true-- after all, one of the major costs in manufacturing is the time it takes in changing from one mold to another, when you could have been pumping out more parts. Also, I seem to recall that if the color's (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Mike Timm
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Where has it been said that the pitchfork mold is gone? We won't know until we ask if any certain mold still exist or not. I would think that the pitchfork mold is more likely than some to be around (I hope anyways) as they were is less sets (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Even if the molds for some of the parts we want still exist, they may be useless. LEGO has changed the composition of its plastics many times over the years (I'm going back to the 50's here). The newer compounds in use today may be (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Toggle Joints (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.lego.direct, David Eaton writes: <snip> (...) If you're looking for some, there's still over 100 of them in my BrickBay store, (URL) at the cheapest price (of BrickBay) too. :-) Does this mean I'm going to have to wait a year for my beams? (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Ben Roller
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| | | | | | (...) Read down the left side of: (URL) just above Eric's arm. :) Ben Roller (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Franklin W. Cain
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| | | | | | | Quoting from the article: "...builders will be able to build any three dimensional creation using free software to create building instructions for their model - and then order the appropriate number and type of bricks" -- Torben Ballegaard Sørensen (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | | | What you said, Baby! I wondered upon these issues almost immediately. Are they reinventing the wheel, or reusing the wheel that has already been made? -- Richard (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | CAD formats (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) One hopes for the latter but fears for the former. We have a licensing problem with the parts library, which we need to address, quickly, IMHO, or stumbling blocks of our own making could prevent TLC legal from approving use of the LDraw (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: CAD formats (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G5561G.6xp@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) or (...) all (...) or (...) the (...) It would be great if somehow TLC worked with the LCAD community to develop this software, and allowed (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: CAD formats (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) The licensing issue doesn't matter, except for appearances/impressions (having a 'licensing issue' gives the impression that we might not play well with LEGO). LEGO doesn't need the LDraw parts library, they've got their own parts database. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Jon Kozan
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) LEGO has their own software for drawing sets. You can see the most recent use of it in the LEGO sculpture "present/ornament" they're selling/building at LEGOLAND this Christmas. I would suspect (but don't know) that if anyone wants (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'm guessing that TLC uses the word "free" in the meaning "gratis", not "free" as in "Free Software Foundation". I would be very surprised if TLC are going to use the LDraw format. It has far too many difficult issues for them to use it. If we (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | | "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:m3y9xt7q3s.fsf@...ldomain... (...) Hmm. As I just finished posting, before readin this, :-) ...it would be great if this software could import DAT files and convert them itself (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I wonder if I have missed something important. When I read the information in the press release that people can use a free modeling program to represent their model and then submit it to buy the parts needed, I thought this program would be (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) There's a strong chance that a mutually beneficial relationship between L-CAD developers and TLC may emerge. LEGO is keeping a very open mind about new data formats. My sense is that they not only want to be able to import LDraw .DAT files (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:G55r47.8xK@lugnet.com... (...) There is an incredible opportunity there, I've had many conversations with people in the commuinty about what is there. I haven't heard from them about anything (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts — Tomas Clark
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hello LUGNET, I wanted to let you all know that LEGO Direct is paying attention! There are a lot of discussions and meetings going on inside TLC right now about the issues mentioned in this thread. Hopefully we'll be able to post here sometime soon (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct) !!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Welcome Tomas! Thanks for posting. It is gratifying to hear every once in a while that someone in LD really is listening in (at least in this group). -John (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm not too experienced with LEGO software, but I can't say I've had the impression that LEGO lives by those rules so far. Ok, so my hands on experience is limited to the Cybermaster unit, which needs specific operating system¹ versions to (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | | | | | "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdd7f5cwad.fsf....uio.no... (...) I don't believe you missed anything. That was an assumption on my part of how much potential I believe this system to have. If indeed TLC comes (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Mark Haddock
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| | | | | | | | | | Doesn't Lego already have their own LegoCAD software? I'm not sure what exactly it comprises or allows you to do, but it is a deritive of AutoCAD developed by Autodesk. It is available through DACTA and I'm sure is too expensive for an average user, (...) (23 years ago, 12-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Ka-On Lee
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| | | | | | | | (...) Wow wow slow down guys. That's just their objective. It will be a difficult job and they may only have a simple software for kids at the beginning. Frankly if they just provide a simple interface like BrickBay for each available part it would (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —John VanZwieten
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| | | | | | "Ben Roller" <broller@mail.clemson.edu> wrote in message news:G54KBx.8K4@lugnet.com... (...) truly (...) various (...) I think people may be reading way too much into this. My guess is that "build any three dimensional creation" is analagous to (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tim Courtney
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| | | | | | "John VanZwieten" <john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:G55qKL.6ou@lugnet.com... (...) It probably won't mean *any* piece, but I can imagine that a good assortment of the most desired pieces will be made available. It would be silly (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —John Matthews
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| | | | | | If LEGO offers all the 'desireable' parts, then they no longer are desireable. LEGO would never do this as it would kill off a good deal of their business, namely, AFOLs. Build On! John Matthews Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | (...) You're joking, right? Garage doors are desirable (highly). If they start selling them Bulk, they're STILL desirable. To BUILD with. I don't amass certain parts because they are desirable (that would be silly, as it would cost me way too much (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Gary Istok
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| | | | | | | | | I agree with Tom, I doubt there is anyone with a larger inventory of rare LEGO parts than I have. Yet I am giddy with anticipation about getting more parts that are considered rare. Case in point: sloped bricks --- I have 140 regular sloped 2x2 blue (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Ah finally a sub thread that makes some sense. Both Tom and Gary speak wise words. I will agree that as Bulk parts become available I will almost definitely cut back on the number of sets I buy but I will more then offset that with my bulk (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Matthew Greene
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| | | | | | | | (...) Tom and I often end up bidding on the same lots, he usually wins ;-( deeper pockets, but the point is that we both want MANY more garage doors, for building not collecting, hoarding or resaling. If I had the chance to buy more doors, I'd need (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Desirable parts (was Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | (...) Actually, I'll probably Ebay off about 50 or so of them sometime next year - I'm keeping the colors I DON'T want in order to trade the parts for the colors I DO want. I need very few clear/blue/transblue/grey slats, need TONS of (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm not sure this is completely true, inasmuch as the desirable parts have intrinsic value (contrast with highly desirable collectible stamps). I for one will always value train windows at a non zero amount, because I actually use them in (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | | (...) Very true. How many people would buy a metroliner or a black seas baracuda or any other so called "rare" set just because its "rare" and/or valuable? I certainly woudnt. There are only 2 reasons I buy lego: Because I like the design of the (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | | (...) Actually, I think LEGO would benefit greatly (as in, money in their pockets) if they offered the desireable parts because they are simply desireable! However, I'd have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, it's great that I can get huge (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | Warning, uninformed speculation ahead. That annoys some people (and their annoyance, in turn, bemuses others). (...) I think this is the very MOST that we can hope for and it is in fact a stretch. Although no one can say for sure, the probability (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Bryan Wong
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yep, I'm pretty sure most of us would agree that making *all* parts available would be ridiculously expensive (from TLC's point of view at least). (...) I have a feeling that those people talking with TLC about good parts are representative of (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Of course interestingly, the colors of doors available have never before been available, so the value of the existing doors probably has only dropped a little. Now windows on the other hand, well, grey windows used to be close to the most rare (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Christopher Masi
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| | | | | | | | | (...) snip a lot of stuff that I wasn't going to comment on (...) Weird, I want everyone in the world to copy my trolleys, my caboose, and my train engines (actually only two, maybe three, of them). I don't think anyone will but hey why not dream. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) You might be supprised. I was just checking out your trolley yesterday and I am seriously considering copying it either in total or at least using some of your ideas. I like it a lot and it may one day show up on a NELUG train layout. Eric (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Is it... an electric trolley? We all know how popular those are. eric (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Ooh... An inside joke ;-). Yup it is electric and it needs no "help". For those wondering here is Chris' trolley. I happen to like it a lot. (URL) Kingsley The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Gary Istok
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I agree with Chris, I too want people to copy my work (if they really like it). I have a lot of rare parts that would certainly drop in value if they were made available again, but then I could build a building with black or gray 1x2x2 (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I've seen this argument before, but I want hard data to back it up. We've all heard the bit about worn molds being cast into new build foundations to make sure noone can use them - not COMPLETELY true, as Lego displays a few molds here and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Kyle D. Jackson
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| | | | | | | | (...) "Rare" can be somewhat simulated by "expensive". If they produce the "rarer" parts in smaller quantities, then those parts should cost more to produce. They should charge a correspondingly higher price. If they sell a 2x4 brick for 1 cent (...) (23 years ago, 10-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | (...) You "prize" the wrong thing, in my view. You prize the collectability of the thing, or the elitism of owning the thing, and not the thing itself. That seems pretty whacky to me, considering we are talking about plastic toys! -- Richard (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | (...) So? If you "prize" these things for the reason I do, that you LOVE them, how could it be a bad thing to have them become available again? I value pitchforks pretty darn highly. I love the part and I wish I could have 10,000 of them. But it (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts —Sheree Rosenkrantz
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| | | | | | (...) Well said! With the introduction of the Mickey Mouse sets, some Fabuland elements which had been near impossible to find much less afford became both available and affordable. It is a glorious feeling to have some elements that I thought I (...) (23 years ago, 7-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | Wait a Minute! (was: Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Charles Eric McCarthy
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| | | | (...) Wait a minute! Nowhere does the press release state that you will be able to buy any piece in any quantity. It states "bricks." I think what they mean by this is the current bulk brick offerings. Maybe slightly augmented. Kevin Zwicker (...) (23 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Wait a Minute! (was: Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts) —Andreas Stabno
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