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Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
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Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:42:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Stacey writes:
> As opposed to Earth in the distant past (some have claimed) - Tolkien
> I had to stop reading Sword of Sha na na cos it was such a blatent rip off I
> couldn't stomach it - I love the lord of the Rings. [snip]

   "Sword of Sha na na?" BWAAAAAA!  :)  Lord Bowser, your
   mighty steed awaits!


> Tolkien was a great
> scholar of western European Mythology and it did inspire much of his work,
> but it can definately be said he put it into a unique context which many
> others have tried to emulate.

   I'll put on the "historian cap" here: most Mediaevalists hate
   it, but Norman Cantor's polemic _Inventing the Middle Ages_ has
   a rather ...interesting... chapter on Tolkien and his contemporaries.
   Basically, they had to repackage the Middle Ages as something that
   could be "sold" to a popular audience.  The idea of mediaeviality
   (if a word) as most of us know it is about 95% bogus and derived
   from scholarship fifty years old or older.  That doesn't make it
   any less *fun*, however.  But if you take a look at that book, I
   guarantee you'll never look at Tolkien the same way again.

   But man, did Cantor ever say a LOT of really rude things about
   some really big names (many of whom are still alive).  Thank God
   for tenure!

> Brookes was embarrisingly bad, Donaldson was
> just too depressing, Feist was too far up his own ass and Eddings was to
> simplistic for his own good. imho. David Gemmell is the only writer to get
> close. Apart from Terry Pratchett who in lampooning the entire genre has
> created something quite original. I haven't read any Harry Potter yet cos
> people keep saying they're the best childerns Fantasy books ever, lets see
> if it ages as well as CS Lewis' Narnia or The Hobbit. I'll put money on the
> fact it dosen't[.]

   Who can say anything about how writing weathers?  I wouldn't be
   surprised if Harry Potter and ilk weather time all right.  It may
   just be that it's the right genre at the right moment, and a fair
   evaluation of the books' merits will have to wait until our love
   affair with Rowling is over.

> anyway.... ... I want a lego balrog !

   Sorry, I'm already under contract.

   best

   Lindsay



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(...) Tolkien pretty much did his thing for self-satisfaction rather than packaging something to be "sold" to a popular audience. In any case, Tolkien was interested more in mythology than actual history. I saw Inventing the Middle Ages on a (...) (26 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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"TWS Garrison" <tgarriso@math.purdue.edu> wrote in message news:GAKFqz.58w@lugnet.com... (...) position (...) caves (...) Inklings. (...) Ouroboros_ by (...) fantasy--notice (...) spelling (...) of (...) post-nuclear-apocalyptic (...) As opposed to (...) (26 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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