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Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
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Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:42:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Stacey writes:
As opposed to Earth in the distant past (some have claimed) - Tolkien
I had to stop reading Sword of Sha na na cos it was such a blatent rip off I
couldn't stomach it - I love the lord of the Rings. [snip]

   "Sword of Sha na na?" BWAAAAAA!  :)  Lord Bowser, your
   mighty steed awaits!


Tolkien was a great
scholar of western European Mythology and it did inspire much of his work,
but it can definately be said he put it into a unique context which many
others have tried to emulate.

   I'll put on the "historian cap" here: most Mediaevalists hate
   it, but Norman Cantor's polemic _Inventing the Middle Ages_ has
   a rather ...interesting... chapter on Tolkien and his contemporaries.
   Basically, they had to repackage the Middle Ages as something that
   could be "sold" to a popular audience.  The idea of mediaeviality
   (if a word) as most of us know it is about 95% bogus and derived
   from scholarship fifty years old or older.  That doesn't make it
   any less *fun*, however.  But if you take a look at that book, I
   guarantee you'll never look at Tolkien the same way again.

   But man, did Cantor ever say a LOT of really rude things about
   some really big names (many of whom are still alive).  Thank God
   for tenure!

Brookes was embarrisingly bad, Donaldson was
just too depressing, Feist was too far up his own ass and Eddings was to
simplistic for his own good. imho. David Gemmell is the only writer to get
close. Apart from Terry Pratchett who in lampooning the entire genre has
created something quite original. I haven't read any Harry Potter yet cos
people keep saying they're the best childerns Fantasy books ever, lets see
if it ages as well as CS Lewis' Narnia or The Hobbit. I'll put money on the
fact it dosen't[.]

   Who can say anything about how writing weathers?  I wouldn't be
   surprised if Harry Potter and ilk weather time all right.  It may
   just be that it's the right genre at the right moment, and a fair
   evaluation of the books' merits will have to wait until our love
   affair with Rowling is over.

anyway.... ... I want a lego balrog !

   Sorry, I'm already under contract.

   best

   Lindsay



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(...) Tolkien pretty much did his thing for self-satisfaction rather than packaging something to be "sold" to a popular audience. In any case, Tolkien was interested more in mythology than actual history. I saw Inventing the Middle Ages on a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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"TWS Garrison" <tgarriso@math.purdue.edu> wrote in message news:GAKFqz.58w@lugnet.com... (...) position (...) caves (...) Inklings. (...) Ouroboros_ by (...) fantasy--notice (...) spelling (...) of (...) post-nuclear-apocalyptic (...) As opposed to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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