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In lugnet.castle, Mark James writes:
> The author NK Stouffer's website - www.realmuggles.com - has a list of
> infringement examples which includes such uncanny shared attributes as...
***snip of characteristics entirely generic to the fantasy genre***
Yeah, those are some far-fetched claims, to be sure. But at issue,
according to the ABC article, is the undeniably similar proper names in the
two series rather than broad "I fight the bad guys using magic" themes.
> Re the plagiarism I'd assume that she's read the Stouffer book(s) in the mid
> 80s, forgotten them, and subconciously recycled a few names such as
> Larry/Harry Potter, Nimbus etc. If Rowling meant to deliberately rip off
> Stouffer's work then I'd imagine she'd have paid a bit more attention to
> disguising the fact!
That's a possibility, but Rowling's failure (if that's what it is--no
judgment has been made, of course!) to recall the source of her character's
names doesn't excuse her from plagiarism. If I write about an inept wizzard
(sic) named Rincewind, I'm still beholden to Pratchett even if I think I
came up with it on my own!
> NK Stouffer seems to have missed another 'infringement example' - that
> second initial K...
They both stole it from Philip K Dick.
Dave!
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| (...) JK Rowling is the highest-earning woman in the UK, with projected earnings of something *mad* like £170m (US$250m-ish) over the next three years from films, toy licencing, some weird fizzy pop tie-in and, um, oh yes - 'book sales'. She can (...) (23 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) Robert Asprin before Pratchett, and De Camp/Pratt (oooooo, Pratchett, what a rip-off) before Asprin. (...) Yes, but Dick doesn't relate to Castles. :-) Bruce (23 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) The author NK Stouffer's website - www.realmuggles.com - has a list of infringement examples which includes such uncanny shared attributes as... mythical place - perhaps those old Greek guys should sue too? muggle families - what, they (...) (23 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.castle)
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