To LUGNET HomepageTo LUGNET News HomepageTo LUGNET Guide Homepage
 Help on Searching
 
Post new message to lugnet.off-topic.debateOpen lugnet.off-topic.debate in your NNTP NewsreaderTo LUGNET News Traffic PageSign In (Members)
 Off-Topic / Debate / 9552
9551  |  9553
Subject: 
Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:47:07 GMT
Viewed: 
684 times
  
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Stacey writes:
As opposed to Earth in the distant past (some have claimed) - Tolkien
I had to stop reading Sword of Sha na na cos it was such a blatent rip off I
couldn't stomach it - I love the lord of the Rings. [snip]

  "Sword of Sha na na?" BWAAAAAA!  :)  Lord Bowser, your
  mighty steed awaits!


Tolkien was a great
scholar of western European Mythology and it did inspire much of his work,
but it can definately be said he put it into a unique context which many
others have tried to emulate.

  I'll put on the "historian cap" here: most Mediaevalists hate
  it, but Norman Cantor's polemic _Inventing the Middle Ages_ has
  a rather ...interesting... chapter on Tolkien and his contemporaries.
  Basically, they had to repackage the Middle Ages as something that
  could be "sold" to a popular audience.  The idea of mediaeviality
  (if a word) as most of us know it is about 95% bogus and derived
  from scholarship fifty years old or older.  That doesn't make it
  any less *fun*, however.  But if you take a look at that book, I
  guarantee you'll never look at Tolkien the same way again.

Tolkien pretty much did his thing for self-satisfaction rather than
packaging something to be "sold" to a popular audience.  In any case,
Tolkien was interested more in mythology than actual history.

I saw Inventing the Middle Ages on a bookstore shelf (Vroman's, Pasadena,
great store) and almost picked it up.  Now I'll have to go back.


  But man, did Cantor ever say a LOT of really rude things about
  some really big names (many of whom are still alive).  Thank God
  for tenure!

Back-biting.  I love it (and speaking of that, let's see what ripples the
egotistical Leakeys' latest discovery sets off).

Bruce



Message is in Reply To:
  Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
 
(...) "Sword of Sha na na?" BWAAAAAA! :) Lord Bowser, your mighty steed awaits! (...) I'll put on the "historian cap" here: most Mediaevalists hate it, but Norman Cantor's polemic _Inventing the Middle Ages_ has a rather ...interesting... chapter on (...) (24 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

62 Messages in This Thread:
























Entire Thread on One Page:
Nested:  All | Brief | Compact | Dots
Linear:  All | Brief | Compact
    

Custom Search

©2005 LUGNET. All rights reserved. - hosted by steinbruch.info GbR