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Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 21 Mar 2001 21:35:15 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Thomas Garrison writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Mark James writes:
> > The format was nailed down into a cod-medieval/'age of chivalry' milleau
> > (with a few Nordic bits and Christian allegory) by Tolkien and the Inklings.
> > No-one has significantly deviated from this.
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> I'd say the genre predates Tolkien and co. (see, e.g., _The Worm Ouroboros_ by
> E.R. Eddison). Tolkien is the archetype for much later s&s fantasy--notice
> blatent use of orcs (you can barely argue a medieval precedent), his spelling
> of dwarfs, etc.
I wasn't saying that JR invented the genre, rather that he defined it for
the vast majority of authors. Middle Earth *is* the template and yardstick
for pretty much everything. I don't know the origin of 'orc' - tell me! -
but I wouldn't have thought you could draw conclusions from 'dwarves'?
Have heard of The Worm Ouroboros but have never read it. Set on Mercury?
That's SF! Interesting to see - http://www.sfsite.com/07b/wo85.htm - that
Eddison was a friend of CS Lewis and acquaintance of Tolkien's. Also
interesting to see - http://www.thuntek.net/hardmag/loons.htm - that being a
member of the English Edwardian academic elite proves to be such a help!
Mark
PS See Arnie's been lured into making Terminator 3. Where's the next Conan
film coming from, that's what I want to know!
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