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Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
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Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:56:47 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
Orc is derived from Ogre, which is why you see fantasy games can get away
with refering to orcs, but never Hobbits.

I thought the word "orc" is derived from the workers around an orc-pile,
i.e. a pile of dead bodies, as referred to in Beowulf.

Cheers,
- jsproat

That would seem logical, especially since Tolkien was a Beowulf scholar, but
the attributions I have read specifically say it derives from ogre (or was
it ogre actually derives from orc - dang, I don't remember).

Bruce



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  Re: Plagarism in Fantasy Novels? (was Re: Harry Potter?)
 
(...) FWIW, the American Heritage Dictionary says the root for ogre is from the Latin orcus, god of the underworld...huh. Now I gotta dig up the resource where I got my idea, I vaguely remember this being mentioned. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 22-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) I thought the word "orc" is derived from the workers around an orc-pile, i.e. a pile of dead bodies, as referred to in Beowulf. Cheers, - jsproat (23 years ago, 21-Mar-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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