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Re: legos biggest mistake is...
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Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:28:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Gary Istok writes:
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> "Tom Stangl, VFAQman" wrote:
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> > Will Hess wrote:
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> > > > It's also important to note that these are developed in Europe, where • they
> > > > tend to be less prudish about such things.
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> > > That point has not been lost on me. Doesn't make it right though.
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> > It says more about the US attitude than the European - Americans are a • bunch of
> > squeamish prudes in general. Why is YOUR attitude "right" and the European
> > attitude "wrong"?
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> > And if you think kids WON'T see cleavage in the real world, from a very • early
> > age, you're dreaming (or living in Amish country and never leave it, and • turn
> > your heads away from the tourists. Then again, if you were Amish, you • wouldn't
> > BE here unless you were a teen on one of their sabbaticals (can't remember • the
> > real name)).
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> > --
> > Tom Stangl
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> I agree completely. When I was 15 I was visiting Europe with my mother and
> sister. We were at my uncles house, and they had on TV a show called "Paris • in
> Review" that showed some floorshows (like in Las Vegas) with all the showgirls
> topless. No one made mention that they were topless, and my mother didn't • shelter
> us kids from this. It was no big deal to them. But here in the USA, this • would be
> considered "pornographic filth".
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> Just go to Munich's (München) Engischer Garten, the large park along the Isar • River
> near city center. There it is "clothing optional" where you will find • nudists and
> sun worshippers intermixed with regular "clothed" people. I guess Europeans • are
> sensitized to nudity, and make no big deal out of it. Here in the USA you get
> hauled into court for "indecent exposure". When I hear people say "I don't • want
> my kids exposed to this filth", I have to laugh. Probably the American • prudishness
> to nudity, is what makes our country the worlds leader in rapes and sex • crimes.
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> Gary Istok
I'd love to see where you got the sex crime statistics, Gary. And you may
be right. But I also believe that some of those same European cultures have
embraced drugs and prostitution. I'll bet child porn is probably pretty
socially acceptable in some of those cultures. Maybe the reason there's less
sex crimes, is because the standard of criminal behavior is lower. I mean,
why rape when you can pay a couple of bucks to do whatever you want.
I don't think I want to raise my daughter to believe that becoming a
prostitute is a good, respectable career choice. I know it's a little
victorian of me, but hey, I'm entitled to my own amish lifestyle.
Markus
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| (...) I agree completely. When I was 15 I was visiting Europe with my mother and sister. We were at my uncles house, and they had on TV a show called "Paris in Review" that showed some floorshows (like in Las Vegas) with all the showgirls topless. (...) (26 years ago, 20-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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