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Re: Why us? and if us, why this way?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:39:59 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> <snip>
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> > The American people are not naifs who yearn for isolationism, but they are
> > starting to ask some hard questions about the way we have been doing
> > business for 50 years, and it may well be time to grant the French,
> > Canadians, Germans, Turks, South Koreans, and a host of others their wishes
> > for independence from us: polite friendship — but no alliances, no bases, no
> > money, no trade concessions, and no more begging for the privilege of
> > protecting them."
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> Canada is in this list?
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> This is why I disdain American political hacks (of course I distain Canadian
> political hacks as well... ;) ).
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> I don't recall Canada ever 'begging' protection from the US.
Nor do I. Canada has been a staunch friend of the US far more often than not.
> I don't recall
> Canada ever 'begging' for trade concessions, and American bases in Canada?
Here I think you may want to check your recollection better. Who mans the DEW?
> Hack
I'd not be so dismissive so quickly. His arguments are sound, they're just
supporting the wrong conclusion (that this time, this war is justified. It's
not).
Long term, to avoid making more messes and getting into more situations
where the enslaver of Tibet gets to tell us how to organise our moral
affairs, we need to take the advice given. Move away from the UN, move away
from NATO, move away from the EU and stop trying to solve everything.
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| (...) Thanks Larry--my apologies for being abrupt. (...) DEW? Most times I love acronyms... (...) To this I agree--throwing our hats into the same ring as those who commit atrocities is the wrong thing to do. But here we sit in the 21st centruy, in (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) 100% agreement with those conclusions without regard as to how one reasons to get there. My one caveat would be that we must also keep the peace whilst backing away from these complicated international entanglements. America should be a benign (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) <snip> (...) Canada is in this list? This is why I disdain American political hacks (of course I distain Canadian political hacks as well... ;) ). I don't recall Canada ever 'begging' protection from the US. I don't recall Canada ever (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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