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    Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
   ...I'd be intereted to hear what people's opinions about inter-racial (inter-ethnic?), inter-religious and inter-national (i.e. people from different countries) relationships. With today's internet as well as world-wide transportation, I'm assuming (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Selçuk Göre
      (...) Actually I always think, a relationship is the business of only two people who directly involved, and *nobody* has a right to say anything about it. It's a pure personal thing. Unfortunately, an awful load of bystanders around you and your (...) (24 years ago, 3-Aug-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Tom Stangl
     I'm fine with any and all of them. Personally, I would tend to thing that inter-religious are the toughest to handle. Can't say that from personal experience, though. (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I probably will have more to say later. For now: - Statisticial analysis of census data seems to indicate that inter-xxxx is on the upswing at least in the US, across all types of xxxx but that the rate of increase varies by type of xxxx (1). (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
     (...) <nod> That's what common sense would say, yep. Good to know common sense is right again. ;-) (...) OK, but what if someone is standing between a crossroads, trying to decide between two people they know to make the relation deeper. One of them (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Scott P. Costello
      (...) Keep in mind that mature love is the culmination of shared interests and experiences, in short love is made not found. Compatibility and common interests are what attract people to each other, but ultimately the decision to commit to someone (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
      (...) Agreed. Initial attraction is great but unless you have a basis of trust, understanding etc. to build on, there are not many places you can go from there. (...) Interesting point. (...) Well, being a romantic, I believe in one true love. (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Jeff Stembel
     (...) It could be a good argument for polygamy/polyandry. ;) Jeff (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Scott P. Costello
      (...) You know the punishment for polygamy is more than one mother-in-law. Scott (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Jeff Stembel
      (...) Well, thats as good an argument against it as I've ever heard. ;D Jeff (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Tom Stangl
      I feel lucky - I get along with my mom-in-law VERY well. In fact, in some ways, better than my mom. I'm not saying I don't get along with my mother, I do, I'm just saying in SOME ways, my mom-in-law thinks along the same vein as I do whereas my (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Mark Sandlin
      (...) That's pretty funny, because my M-I-L is the same way. My In-laws sent me the the UCS X-Wing for X-Mas. How's that for good relationships? :^D ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Tom Stangl
      Yeah, my mom-in-law just sends money, since she KNOWS I'll find the best price on Lego ;-) (...) Corp | iPlanet Support - (URL) A division of AOL Time Warner | Please do not associate my personal views with my employer (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Frank Filz
     (...) Not if they're sisters or brothers.... :-) :-) Frank (24 years ago, 3-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —John Robert-Blaze Kanehl
     (...) I am fairly open-minded... I have had relationships outside my religion, race, and country...(ahh the wonders of those college years, but I digress) (...) The internet is only a very small part of the cultural change of the past 40 years... (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Jorge Rodriguez
     I don't agree that the US is a melting pot. A melting pot suggests no divisions and we know that is not the case. The US is more like a salad. You can still pick out the individual pieces in the bowl. The next step would be a Lego set in that all (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Maggie Cambron
     (...) I tend to agree. It is very hard to maintain an identity in more than one race or culture. My observation is that children with parents of different races often end up identifying with one race over the other(s), but not without a feeling that (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Society does it's best to enforce that outcome - I always get steamed when my son comes home from school with one of those "mark only one" forms under "race" (I always disobey the rule and point out to my son why I'm doing it). At least the (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Maggie Cambron
     (...) We've been doing standardized testing for the past couple of weeks here in California, and I noticed on the form the students had to fill out that there are now two complete sections provided for the students to indicate their race or (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Tom Stangl
      (...) I don't call that progress, I call that moving BACKWARDS. The question simply shouldn't be there AT ALL. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I agree. We leave it blank (along with a lot of other stuff like how many bathrooms we have and other marketing research kind of stuff...) on the census form. This has earned us a followup visit the last two times. ++Lar (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Lindsay Frederick Braun
      (...) Say what one will about the challenges and problems now facing South Africa, but they knew that the very first thing they needed to do with the 1996 census was *eliminate* any category of race or ethnicity on the forms. Granted, they're much (...) (24 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Maggie Cambron
      (...) I'm glad the census bureau collects data on such matters as the number of bathrooms contained in the average household. I would think information such as this would be useful to historians in the future-- I mean, wouldn't info like that (...) (24 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) The number of bathrooms is not a factor in determining how many people are resident in an area for the purposes of determining proportional representation... that is the role of the census as specified in the constitution. Any collection of (...) (24 years ago, 6-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Yup, SAT 9 (Chino Hills). They just finished yesterday. My son's teacher pointed out to him how to indicate both. They still want the kid to make a choice with that "most identifies with" bit, so with luck I screwed up the computer scan by (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Steve Bliss
     (...) Chino Hills? Cool beans! I used to love that drive through Carbon Canyon... It's been 10 years (and 2 months) since I lived in the area. It's undoubtedly overgrown a lot since there. Steve (24 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Scott P. Costello
     (...) I can guarantee that you would not love the drive nowadays. I drive through the canyon daily and although the area has grown tremendously, the freeway system has not kept up. On top of that the 91 freeway has a huge toll road that will not let (...) (24 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Carbon Canyon + Miata.....bliss! —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Stanford 9. My brain fuzzed out. (...) Great place to drive through. Put the top down, the shades on, and give the Bridgestone RE-71s a workout. (...) That's the slackers in Riverside county. The 91 was awful 10 years ago, I'll note. Carbon (...) (24 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Jorge Rodriguez
     Why do you ask? Is someone giving you a hard time because of a "non-traditional" relationship? By the way all my relationships have been inter-xxxx ( as Larry calls them). I hadn't realized this till I read your post so my view is that it doesn't (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —James Brown
     (...) Whatever floats your boat. :) Put another way, I'm of the strong opinion that it's generally nobodies business how a relationship works except the people involved(1). Compatability is a funny thing, and various factors like religion, culture (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
     (...) <<cut comment and paste>> (...) <nod> The question is, who are the people involved? You say, *not* just the two people in the relationship, right? Who is also included? Parents of the two? Friends? Family? etc. Who in your opinion should be (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —James Brown
     (...) No easy answer, I'm afraid. Any relationship is a complex beast, from a potential lifemate right down to the stranger you get along with at a party. The strongest influence on a relationship is going to be the people involved, but right up (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Scott P. Costello
     This is a very complex question, which really comes down to a persons priorities. For example if a Christian and a Jew want to get married several questions arise. Will the ceremony be performed by a priest or a rabbi? Will dietary laws be obeyed by (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Rick Hallman
     Well, I dated a girl who was second generation Laoition. (Laos) Her father and moteher came from Laos. It was... an intereseting relationship. Rick (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
     (...) Interesting how? If you don't mind expanding on that... -Shiri (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —James Simpson
     (...) There is no reason why any of the above are wrong. All humans are compatible, given the right circumstances. Personally, i doubt that i'd marry someone who was not already of my faith before we met because the particular sort of compatibility (...) (24 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) They have extra added baggage, some of it silly, some of it serious (inter-religious and kids, for example). Friends' disapproval will require you to be prepared to win them over or jettison your friends or your love interest. Parental (...) (24 years ago, 4-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Shiri Dori
     (...) No trouble on that front. As far as I know all of my friends have totally no problems with it, and are being really supportive. Some of my acquintances are being a little funny about it, but then again, there's a reason why they're just (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Bruce Schlickbernd
     (...) Yes and no. One can carry it to rude proportions quite easily (especially those with a sour expression on their face), but honestly, people tend to look at things out of the ordinary. They aren't trying to be rude, it's just different, so they (...) (24 years ago, 7-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Daniel Jassim
   Ideally: I want to live in a world where we wouldn't have a question like this. Reality: That still isn't the world we live in, but the world is what we make of it! :) I am proud to say that I am the fine product of all three factors: Arab father / (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Inter-racial, Inter-religious, Inter-national relationships —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Be proud of that country, no matter what it is... (...) Hear hear. I think it's a testimony to your upbringing (that is, to your parents) and your own inner strength that you have risen above the prejudices of others, for the most part, (...) (24 years ago, 5-May-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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