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Re: Train doors and windows
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.general
Date: 
Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:41:37 GMT
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Hi LUGNET Community members,

Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message
news:slrn7sgjqo.7ai.cjc@VADER.NS.UTK.EDU...
Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote:
I feel all discussions concerning this deal should remain in the public
arena.

Why do you feel that way? What business of yours (as a non participant)
is it, really? (Note well that I would welcome your participation)

Well, outside of the specifics of the private contract between the
consortium members, I think this whole topic is of a potentially HUGE
interest to just about everyone who reads here.

Unless I throw my $500 in I don't care what you pay per piece, what
you auction them for, or anything else that has to do with the
consortium.

As someone who would very much like to order OTHER parts in bulk,
though, I don't see how anyone could not think that a lot of people
would want to discuss this.

I was going to pledge $500 towards this idea, but when I discovered we were
not going to be able to even suggest parts, that instead they were all going
to be train windows and doors and a few others that were chosen by the
people setting this up, I pulled my pledge.  I agree with Mike on this.  I
think it is important to open this up publicly and let everyone know what's
going on so that we might agree on something that would benefit all of us.
I don't know how many have already pledged to just buy train windows and
doors through Larry's proposal, but I would like to offer a different
suggestion that you should consider before pledging your money to Larry.
(Note:  This is not an attack on Larry, just trying to make people aware of
the issue and an alternative.)

I suggest:

1.  People pledge an amount of money that they can afford, be it $1 to
$10,000.
2.  Each pledge will be accompanied by a list of parts that you want the
most.  This list could be as long as you want.  But you should place your
most desired at the top.
3.  People who pledge $100 or more will be the ones who decide which parts
are ordered.
4.  Parts will be ordered in lots of 500.
5.  Parts are chosen by going through the list according to the amount
pledged (highest to lowest) and alphabetically (when pledges are the same).
The first part on the list of the highest pledgee with the last name coming
first in the English alphabet will be added to the list to be ordered, then
the first part of the second highest pledgee with the last name coming
first/second will be added to the list of parts to be ordered, etc, until
all parts on everyone's list is on the order list.  When a part is listed
more than once on different peoples lists, those people will be contacted to
decide whether that part should be ordered multiple times or if one order of
500 would suffice.  In those cases where only one order was decided on then
the first pledgee with that part order would be the 'owner' of that part
request and consecutive people who agreed to the one order will have the
next part in their list added instead.
6.  Then we would send this order list to TLG with our proposal of $X and
ask how far down the list could we buy with the $X amount of dollars.
7.  If they accept then we would collect the funds for the order.  That's
very important because I don't think anyone would want to put up $20-50K and
end up being stuck with a bunch of parts they didn't want.
8.  Then we would place our order.
9.  It would be delivered to one persons house.  (We may need to add a small
% to each pledge amount to cover extra shipping costs.)
10.  That one person would mail out various boxes to people who have
volunteered to help sort the pieces.
11.  Each person who pledged would send out a list of how many parts on
their lists that they really want.  (Ideally not everyone will want all 500
pieces that had to be ordered so that TLG would make a single part.)
12.  Then the sorters would separate the pieces according to the pledge's
desired list.
13.  Then all the remaining pieces would be listed for the all pledgees to
choose from.  (We would have to set a limit depending on the amount you
pledged/paid and if possible the actual cost of the part (probably as a
function of weight).)
14.  Then the sorters would sort out those pieces.
15.  The sorters would pack up the packages and ship them to the consortium
members.
16.  Any remaining pieces would be returned to the original person who
received the shipment.  They would then sort out the pieces again if
necessary and put all of them up for auction to the whole LUGNET community.
(We could also set up the auction where each sorter sent out pieces
according to who won the bid, but I think collecting them in one place
before the auction would be best.)
17.  Proceeds from the auction would be split according to the % amount you
pledged and paid initially.
18.  We would all sit back and marvel at the number of pieces that we have
always dreamed of owning.

Personally I think this would be the most ideal solution to our 'once in a
life-time' deal with TLG.  Please send comments.

Thanks,
Adam Howard



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Just to be clear, either you don't agree with me or I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here and later on. I have absolutely NO desire to change, adjust, alter, or anything else, this deal going through with Larry's coordination. He's only (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
  Re: Train doors and windows
 
Hi Adam, I think its all academic until we know the price per part or per run of a part. What we then need is not a pledge of money but of the number of each part people want and therefore how many runs of that part will be needed. This consortium (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)

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  Re: Train doors and windows
 
(...) Well, outside of the specifics of the private contract between the consortium members, I think this whole topic is of a potentially HUGE interest to just about everyone who reads here. Unless I throw my $500 in I don't care what you pay per (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)

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