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(...) Dave, thanks for your reply. Please calmly think about this: First: Yes, imagination in my opinion DOES trump color... and shape, and minifig realism, and so on. Pieces + imagination = fun. I played with green army men who had maybe five (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) So I ask politely...what is the point of the website? You should at the very least link to (URL) BSV>. Brickshelf is horrid enough on it's own, much less jumping out at you on a website. (URL) [ j o n ] (URL) zemi.net> (URL) moonbase> (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish, FTX)
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(...) I was thinking that too, but in a much different context than what you quoted for your cite. I don't exactly equate nonstop harping, personal attacks, thread hijacks, and general bitterness with friendliness. I think Nick would like to keep it (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Nick Kappatos wrote: snip (...) This is "the friendliest place on the Internet"?!? (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Wanna bet? I think you have *no idea* how many people at TLG do or don't read LUGNET, or where they sit in the corporate hierarchy, or whether the thread is actually doing more harm than good or not. I don't have much better info than you do, (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) ... snipped ... (...) Now I disagree. While this may true for the readers at LUGNET, how much of this so-called "noise" is actually reaching TLG? No one at TLG (besides Jake) is reading all of these color-change complaints. Sometimes, when the (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Exactly. (and Paulo, I didn't miss your point, read on to see why) To be 9V complete, you have to have BOTH of the stations I cited... despite being the same design, they are a LOT different. Further, to be 9V complete you have to have BOTH (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Finally, after a year of procrastination, I've gotten my site a new host. Ozbricks stopped hosting without any warning, damn them. Anyhow, here it is: (URL) For the Empire! (URL) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
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In lugnet.general, John Gerlach wrote: -Snip- (...) I say send that man a 5541 for his efforts. Take one off the line and send it to JohnG, GMLTC. e (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yup. Spotlighted. (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I have to say the parts most important to me would be roof stock in old brown, all the parts that were in the black roof pack, though add in the one part that was missing so we can make more than straight roofs. (URL) (we could use these in black (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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"Tom Stangl, VFAQman" <talonts@vfaq.com> wrote in message news:409C2822.F2FCB9...faq.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) nothing. (...) important (...) [ ... snipped ... ] I disagree. There comes a point when saying the same thing over and over again (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego) !!
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Lets work out (as a community of Space builders) what should be in a Space bucke. Something that we would buy but also something that the next generation of Space builders (and their parents) will be interested in. (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.space, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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How about this one in old lt grey: (URL) better yet, how about the whole set it came in (6273 Rock Island Refuge) in classic greys... (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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oh and another thing. If you release any packs with bricks in them (brick packs, tubs or whatever, regardless of color), please put less 2 x n bricks and more 1 x n bricks in them. (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Perhaps just keep the 10040 on as a "permanent" item in the old colors... Would that satisfy pirate builders? (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Now this I would buy (in old colors definatly, mabie not new colors) Especially if it had things like windscreens and such too. (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Oh, that set brings back a fond memory. When I was working at the LEGO Imagination Center at the Mall of America I got to take a 5541 home to build it for display. I spent about three hours gluing (using MEK & 'super glue') it together, I even (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Bahh, crap. I forgot a really, really important one. I think that any Legend set should be released using its original colors. Big one here. Big for everybody, I imagine. (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) To keep in old colors: -48x48 baseplates -ideally, brick bulk packs. Since that's probably not an option, just 2x4s and 1x4s would be really nice. This is mostly for the greys. To help build up new colors: -bulk brick, plate, slope, and tile (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Haha when I first saw this thread of messages, I got really excited after seeing "new Legend" and "4554/2150" in the same sentence. The 5541 Hot Rod is a pretty nice model, but I would've picked something else (like the Galaxy Explorer). Those (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Tim, that larger item is his army. It looks bad when your troops are supposed to look the same but a percentage of them are stuck with different-looking equipment. Imagine a formation of 50 Marines with 5 of them wearing the new pixelated (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Thanks Larry, I'm still a dedicated AFOL but haven't posted in quite a while. The big hint from me is: either 4554 or 2150 should be the next legend. I'd buy at least one of each again in a heartbeat! Bert Waters (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) nothing. (...) important (...) Well stated Tom! (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I think this is a perfect example of why it is called a "legend". They are not creating more of the original kits. If they were you could expect the exact same kit... same kit #, same brick colour, same brick material could even be argued. By (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Jake has told me, and I believe he's told the group here on LUGNET, that Consumer Affairs *does* track this information and *does* relay it to the appropriate department. But, I suppose that might not be good enough for people who "can never (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In old colors permanently: <4519>, <4515>, <4531>, <4520>, <5305>, <628>, Mosaics unless you want to use the new colors to make 7 color mosaics instead of 5. Parts permanently in old color: (URL) lt. grey, dk grey (URL) lt. grey, dk grey (URL) (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) But telling Consumer Affairs is telling it to a black hole. It does nothing. However, as Jake has noted, TLG employees read Lugnet. So stating it here again....and again...and again {might} finally make it sink in as to how important it is to (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake, I think it would be easiest on the company, you, and AFOLs if a Tub List were made up. Then produce that tub in Old Grey/DkGrey/Brown AND in New. Make the external tub color Old Grey for the old colors, and maybe black or New Brown for the New (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) That's it. Tell customer service what you think. As for the rest of us, we already know, cause you've already told us...and told us...and told us. -Tim (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Gil, Rereading my post i find it a bit ironic. It was not my intention. The answer was sincere but the words after the answer were ranting i must admit. (I thought that in this context of "what parts would you like being produced in old (...) (22 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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And I get equally tired of responses like this one so I suppose we are all just tired. Greg "Rocco J Carello" <rogue27@mac.com> wrote in message news:HxDABH.1FA2@lugnet.com... (...) all (...) new (...) probably why (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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I don't see this as ruining anything. I have read some very interesting posts with the direction this thread has gone. Some things have even given me perspective I had not previously considered. Why should you care, just don't read it! There are (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Yes, i agree, both of them are very desirable. But they are different sets. And if they made one in *universal* tan surely i would get one too :-) Now, seriously, and with all due respect, i think you missed my point. English is not my native (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I agree. I get tired of each new thread Jake starts turning into a color complaint. It makes it difficult to enjoy reading a thread. That's probably why I had an edge to the words in my first reply to him. (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Regardless of their level of skill and expertise, they can and will put the word LEGEND on top of a box if they want to. (...) The change to this set IS minor. This thread is about the new legend, and the slightly changed grey is a minor (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Wow! How cool! I really liked that set, errrm "Model". I broght 4 of them back in the day. Some of the parts helped me build the Little Blue Bot. Good news, thank you! e (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Nice choice, Jake! Of course, I already own 3-5 in blue, and 2 in red (I built a Red Fury before *you* guys did!). Make my day - release part 6005 in yellow so I can finally make a Yellow Fury (I KNOW they exist, they were used as fingers on the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) And the same to you. I was asking Giddens where you had disappeared off to a few weeks ago, and now here you are posting again. Good to hear from you! -Tim (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) It doesn't bug me. If they're only going to stick around to complain, then I'd rather not have to filter through their posts. (...) Yes, I think it's quite extreme. It puzzles me, but it doesn't upset me. To each his own. -Tim (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Tim, Agreed. Yes, there are some strong arguments on each side (I have yet to voice my concern for it, let alone for parts) but I think we should talk about set concepts and theme issues and sweet MOCs. Also, "Hello to you" as I haven't spoken (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) It was that last sentence that really got me thinking. Some posts I've seen put up about going into a "quasi-dark-age" have just left me uneasy. There is nothing wrong voicing displeasure with what LEGO has done but to take as far as "That's (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Great news Jake, and thanks for the heads-up! Hopefully there are a few more in the works :) James (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) So when will enough have been said? When the thread reaches 300 posts? 400? 1000? When the change is finally reverted [1]? From reading your posts, I don't think it will _e.ver_ be enough for you. Not even if you get your way in the end, (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Thanks Jake and Lego! I'm excited about being able to get a model team set, this would be my first. Please continue to publish legends regardless of the color issue. Mark (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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WOW, first off Dave, let me say it is nice to see somone able to have rational thoughts about the color issue. It seems as though too many folks are not interested in discussing things just stating "it sucks" or "get over it". Now I will certainly (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Have I ever mentioned one of the major advantages of LDraw: you can have *any* part, in *any* color... (URL) a great weekend, y'all! ;) Franklin (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree with Nick. -Tim (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In lugnet.general, Gregory Muri wrote: snipped for redundancy's sake (...) From Lugnet Terms of Use Agreement: (URL) (do not) Post or re-post a message excessively 12. (do not) Stray hopelessly off-topic without moving the discussion to a more (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Sweet! I love that line of Model Team stuff!! That is a good set to release as a Legend, good for parts or as an "Executive Display" piece. Awesome! I'd love to see some more Legends surface, be they Castle or not. :o) -Aaron- (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Together, yes, I can tell. Takes a second, but I can tell. It's not overly hard. Put them together on a MOC? if they're on a flat surface, side by side, then, yes, you can see that something's slightly off. Put them together on the same MOC a (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Whilst other threads focus on old and new colours (please keep those out of this one), there is a general issue of parts availability that I think should be addressed in the marketing strategy of the Lego company. Many of us like to buy parts in (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Old colours * 48x48 baseplate in old lt grey * train track in old dk grey * 1x2 and 1x4 log bricks in old brown New colours * easy access in bulk to "common" parts in the new shades (and if S@H can't/won't cope, pile it high in the Pick-A-Brick and (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I agree, anything that should be made out of wood should be available in the old color. The old brown looks more like actual wood to me than the new one. Along with that things like 1x1 brown cylinders and 2x2 round bricks and plates for use (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake, This is my order of importance. Old Colors: Base plates Train Wheelsets Train Track New Colors: Basic Brick service packs or tubs Plates service packs or tubs Slopes Architectual Elements Vehicle Elements Regards, Robert Powell (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) You know civility and politeness go a long way. Nastiness and knashing of teeth only make people tune you out. -Orion (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Keep old colours of: HIGHEST PRIORITY: All train tracks, due to huge customer cost of replacement if colours are incompatible (>$1000 for some people - I have at least 50 packs of straights and more than 30 switches) 1xn plates (pack 10064 (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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It is already confirmed. This set is already available to some in Europe and it contains new grey parts. The reason you only find the old colors available at PaB is that Lego is trying to get rid of them. Once they are gone then the new colors can (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Hi Jake, Here are a couple of possible ways to go. 1. Create theme buckets in old colors: "Classic-Space Bucket" - basically this would include speciallized elements found in the first lines of the Space theme - take for instance the light gray (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) All right!!! VERY Cool. Another Legend. Not quite what I was expecting, but very nice!! I haven't bought any Model Team sets, so this will be a good excuse to start collecting!!! Ben Medinets (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) the old (...) imagine (...) I too am blown away that you would have such trouble seeing the difference between these colors. I received a batch of parts from a BL seller and there happened to be one out of 50 that was the new color. That one (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I don't believe that Lego marketing could convince people to buy rain coats while it was raining. If they could then the company would not be in the poor financial situation they are in today. (...) Changing a color that has been used in your (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Please calm down fellows, it's way too soon to jump to conclusions. Let us wait until the set is released before reviewing it. When the set happens to turn up with classic gray parts, you would feel pretty dumb, woudn't you? I'm not saying I know it (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) I agree with this pretty much. If you're not going to have all the parts in the old colours there's not that many that are really needed in them. Getting as large a range of elements in the new colours is the priority. Tim (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) I don't really understand your thinking here. As far as I can see all the parts you list are standalone parts so you don't really get the problem of (for example) something that is supposed to be painted all one colour being mottled (doesn't (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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Yep, this got ugly in a hurry. If truth be told, I can see why TLC did the color change. Here is my theory: TLC felt that it should keep its lines fresh; TLC felt that a new vigor should be fed into the toys is made. So, it came up with several (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Wings are, honestly, overrated. I rarely use them anymore. As for what a big time spacer like me really would like to see in new grey: plates slopes plates hinges (finger hinges would be nice. Not click hinges) plates basic bricks plates tiles (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Oddly enough, this post is already about colours...;-) Peace and colourful posts, Professor Whateverly Ps. Yes, you do make some good points. (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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(...) SNIP (...) WOOHOO! Lately, I've been bugging my brother in SC to gather the (still together) major chunks of this set, as i wanted it for my technic scale vehicles (Technic figs fit it!) here in NH where i live now. Well, i guess I'll just (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Of course, at some level, its a matter of opinion, so maybe I am in the minority. However, I have heard discussion from people who seem to be a lot more interested in colors than I, that the sand colors were mixes of the base color and (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) I've seen two paths to accumulating new greys quickly: 1) Starter tubs 2) Releasing legends in the new colors Choice 2 works really well for castle. You'd get good proportions of walls and bricks to help fill them in. For space, maybe (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) From this I gather that you'd be just as happy if TLG switched LEGO's entire range of colors to dull brown, or perhaps pink? After all, you assert that imagination trumps color, so why bother with those pesky blues and reds and yellows? Some (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general)
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Regarding the recent color firestorm: The world does not come in exactly 256 colors. There are not just 2 colors of grey stone/metal/etc in the real world. The average child's imagination can see wood colored green, and people colored purple, and (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general) !
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(...) It's fairly obvious that TLG's goal of profit is the main motivation for the change. To use an example like your own, tell a focus-group-kid that she has five dollars to spend on a either of two sets, one of which has 10 pieces, while the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake- I wrote a reply addressing my general response to ordinary bricks in which I failed to mention track and baseplates. Maybe you could solve two track problems at one time: Make runs of old dark gray track and generically bag/box them in sets of (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Thanks Dirk. Enjoy your hibernation and I hope you find your new hobby relaxing, enjoyable and stress free. Kevin (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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Jake- That April 1 post about the Dark Grey bucket got it just about right. For each color on life support (dark gray, light gray, brown), make two tubs: Basic: Mostly bricks and plates and some slopes, tiles and cylinders Accessory: Everything else (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !
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(...) Thanks Jake. In the old colors, I'd like to see the continuation of the '10,000 run limited' brick and plate packs. I'd like to see them unlimited for a while. I'd also like to see tile packs released (or at least a 100 pack of 2x2 tiles in (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Priority for "old" colors * Baseplates (all varieties) crater plates if you've got 'em :-) * Train Track Priority for "new" color market saturation * Basic 1 x n plates * Basic 2 x n plates * Basic 4 x n plates * Basic 6 x n plates * Basic 1 x (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Throw a lot of bricks in old and new colors in a heap on the floor, and then let in a number of kids and take note of which pieces are used first, and most. Mixing old and new gray *really* makes the old look 'dirty', the new are much (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Your comment strongly disagrees with LEGO's marketing department. (...) The grey issue is a minor change due to part availability. (...) It would look fine. Of the changed colors, classic space only uses light grey and light grey was barely (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) Hi Jake, First I'd like to say thanks for giving us this opportunity I'll start with 2 general points: 1. Yellow faces. If TLC want to make pinky seasick minifig faces thats fine with us as long as they won't kill the old "normal" Yellow (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.castle, FTX)
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(...) Wow, I'm totally amazed. I feel completely the opposite. If a piece isn't available, like the spruce tree in Main Street, that slightly decreases the value of the "Legend" quality. Not so much to deter me from being happy with it or buying the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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(...) < snipped a lot of good stuff > What Frank has said I share too. Getting those most basic of sizes and shapes is what matters to me most. Adr. (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Thanks Jake, Agreed. I think I'm not alone in wanting it all, but I understand that you need to know what we'll settle for. So I think the minimum would be all bricks, plates, slopes and tiles in the 'common sizes' in the original colours, as (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hi Kevin, I like your direct style! Yes I am an adult, and I'm mature. But no longer a fan of LEGO. It was not my intention to annoy any AFOL! Sorry, if this was a result of my postings! Then it even would have been better not to write a single (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego)
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In Classic Colors: -Baseplates (especially 48x48) -BURPS -Wooden Doors In the New Colors: -Basic bricks -Slopes -Plates -Wings -Rocket peices I keep thinking of .space and how it'll be awhile before a whole MOC ship can be built using just new (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, other than the new gray issue, YAY! *This* is what I consider to be Good News. ;) Model Team was always one of my very favorite lines but was always too pricey for me in those days. Now that I've got the cash, I'm really hoping for more (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: snip (...) I think both things should be done. A few nice old color specialized packs for each theme could be done while basic brick packs of new colors could be offered. For an old grey castle accessory pack, I (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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For me basic bricks, plates, and slopes are a must in real grey, dark grey, and brown. BURPS and 48x48 baseplates make excellent candidates as well. I have no suggestions for the new colors as I don't have and will not use any of them. Thanks for (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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Ok, my thoughts on this: First, I forget, are we talking about a range of parts that will be available for a limited time in the old colors, or a set of parts that will be available at least for a significant amount of time? What would be most (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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I think the large 48x48 baseplates should be available in the old grey. Other than that, I'd like to see all basic bricks, plates, slopes, and tiles made available in the NEW greys. Maybe in buckets to supplement the slow leak they've been released (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Old Colours BURPS , especially rectangular Track , hopefully including monorail Windows , (30044 etc.) New Colours Castle walls Turret tops Basically I would like to build the castles in one colour... old/new doesn't matter to me... just in (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Paulo, I don't know you and I'm sure outside of this thread you contribute positive things to the community here, but honestly, this is really enough. Please take time to consider how futile such petty comments are. If you are truly a fan of (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) Would it be possible to produce all the pre-2004 sets with old grey (including any re-releases such as Legends?) Failing that, parts I'd like still available would be those used in Classic Space and Castle construction with a priority given to (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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Jake, I made the following suggestion in a separate thread ((URL)), but just for completeness I'll post it in this too-long thread as well: Don't change any more colors, period. There are already tons of colors, and TLC seems to be adding more every (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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Wow, what a crazy couple of days! 250 posts on a thread I started. I'm not sure where to feel shamed or proud. (I know, I know, all I should feel these days is shame) Since my fireproof suit is beginning to strain under the pressure, I'm going to (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !!
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(...) But changing shades of colours on re-released versions of old models is something that is commonly done across a number of industries. It might be a reasonable concern if Lego claimed they were continuing to sell 5541s and did not include the (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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(...) You're absolutely correct, it isn't quite the same, badging/positioning wise. It's also a LOT different change, as even LEGO hasn't suggested turning yellow so much redder that it's red... (...) Thanks. Something else to toss out is that when (...) (22 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, FTX)
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