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Wow, what a crazy couple of days! 250 posts on a thread I started. I’m not sure
where to feel shamed or proud. (I know, I know, all I should feel these days is
shame)
Since my fireproof suit is beginning to strain under the pressure, I’m going to
ask for some very specific feedback in this post. As much as many of you don’t
think I/we are listening, understanding, or “getting it”, we really really are.
And if not, there is 250+ posts of information I can read over! :) Listening and
understanding isn’t based on outcome.
OK, here’s what this post is about:
In the original post I made a couple of days ago, I mentioned that LEGO has
agreed to find some ways to help make this transition smoother. There has been
some discussion about items that would be important to lock into the old colors,
including some specific parts selections. There has been some discussion that
it’s time to move on and focus on building up stocks of the new colors.
I’d love to hear from you what your choice would be, and what parts you
consider “priority” for either solution.
Please help keep the focus of this post on the request above. I’m not
discounting your opinions, concerns, or thoughts. I’m just trying to keep this
post on track so that we can come away with a solid understanding of your
thoughts on one particular issue.
Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Development
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| (...) Would it be possible to produce all the pre-2004 sets with old grey (including any re-releases such as Legends?) Failing that, parts I'd like still available would be those used in Classic Space and Castle construction with a priority given to (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Old Colours BURPS , especially rectangular Track , hopefully including monorail Windows , (30044 etc.) New Colours Castle walls Turret tops Basically I would like to build the castles in one colour... old/new doesn't matter to me... just in (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| I think the large 48x48 baseplates should be available in the old grey. Other than that, I'd like to see all basic bricks, plates, slopes, and tiles made available in the NEW greys. Maybe in buckets to supplement the slow leak they've been released (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| For me basic bricks, plates, and slopes are a must in real grey, dark grey, and brown. BURPS and 48x48 baseplates make excellent candidates as well. I have no suggestions for the new colors as I don't have and will not use any of them. Thanks for (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| Ok, my thoughts on this: First, I forget, are we talking about a range of parts that will be available for a limited time in the old colors, or a set of parts that will be available at least for a significant amount of time? What would be most (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: snip (...) I think both things should be done. A few nice old color specialized packs for each theme could be done while basic brick packs of new colors could be offered. For an old grey castle accessory pack, I (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| In Classic Colors: -Baseplates (especially 48x48) -BURPS -Wooden Doors In the New Colors: -Basic bricks -Slopes -Plates -Wings -Rocket peices I keep thinking of .space and how it'll be awhile before a whole MOC ship can be built using just new (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| (...) Thanks Jake, Agreed. I think I'm not alone in wanting it all, but I understand that you need to know what we'll settle for. So I think the minimum would be all bricks, plates, slopes and tiles in the 'common sizes' in the original colours, as (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Priority for "old" colors * Baseplates (all varieties) crater plates if you've got 'em :-) * Train Track Priority for "new" color market saturation * Basic 1 x n plates * Basic 2 x n plates * Basic 4 x n plates * Basic 6 x n plates * Basic 1 x (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| (...) Thanks Jake. In the old colors, I'd like to see the continuation of the '10,000 run limited' brick and plate packs. I'd like to see them unlimited for a while. I'd also like to see tile packs released (or at least a 100 pack of 2x2 tiles in (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Jake- That April 1 post about the Dark Grey bucket got it just about right. For each color on life support (dark gray, light gray, brown), make two tubs: Basic: Mostly bricks and plates and some slopes, tiles and cylinders Accessory: Everything else (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX) !
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| Jake- I wrote a reply addressing my general response to ordinary bricks in which I failed to mention track and baseplates. Maybe you could solve two track problems at one time: Make runs of old dark gray track and generically bag/box them in sets of (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Keep old colours of: HIGHEST PRIORITY: All train tracks, due to huge customer cost of replacement if colours are incompatible (>$1000 for some people - I have at least 50 packs of straights and more than 30 switches) 1xn plates (pack 10064 (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Hi Jake, Here are a couple of possible ways to go. 1. Create theme buckets in old colors: "Classic-Space Bucket" - basically this would include speciallized elements found in the first lines of the Space theme - take for instance the light gray (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Jake, This is my order of importance. Old Colors: Base plates Train Wheelsets Train Track New Colors: Basic Brick service packs or tubs Plates service packs or tubs Slopes Architectual Elements Vehicle Elements Regards, Robert Powell (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| Old colours * 48x48 baseplate in old lt grey * train track in old dk grey * 1x2 and 1x4 log bricks in old brown New colours * easy access in bulk to "common" parts in the new shades (and if S@H can't/won't cope, pile it high in the Pick-A-Brick and (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Jake, I think it would be easiest on the company, you, and AFOLs if a Tub List were made up. Then produce that tub in Old Grey/DkGrey/Brown AND in New. Make the external tub color Old Grey for the old colors, and maybe black or New Brown for the New (...) (20 years ago, 7-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| (...) In old colors permanently: <4519>, <4515>, <4531>, <4520>, <5305>, <628>, Mosaics unless you want to use the new colors to make 7 color mosaics instead of 5. Parts permanently in old color: (URL) lt. grey, dk grey (URL) lt. grey, dk grey (URL) (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) To keep in old colors: -48x48 baseplates -ideally, brick bulk packs. Since that's probably not an option, just 2x4s and 1x4s would be really nice. This is mostly for the greys. To help build up new colors: -bulk brick, plate, slope, and tile (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| I have to say the parts most important to me would be roof stock in old brown, all the parts that were in the black roof pack, though add in the one part that was missing so we can make more than straight roofs. (URL) (we could use these in black (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| Thanks for all you've done so far Jake (here's hoping you can do a lot more) What would I like to see ? Rectangular & Triangular Burps in old dk gray. Basic 1x & 2x bricks, slopes & arches in old lt & dk gray. 1 x 5 x 4 arch, Castle doors in all 3 (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) 1. With the (possible) exception of train track (especially 9V) and the 48x48 baseplate, I wouldn't want parts to be 'locked into' a particular color, if that meant they were completely unavailable in other colors. But parts that I would like (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| Jake: I think others are doing a great job of listing the elements to keep producing in the classic gray's and brown. I really want to see these available in a bucket or tub format. Have track and baseplates available seperatly. But think buckets (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Jake, I'd like to see the 2x2 round brick released in dark gray. It was never released in a set in that color, although a few have made their way on to Bricklink from the Red Letter Days events in the UK. I need quite a few of these for a (...) (20 years ago, 8-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| (...) I really feel that any parts in old brown that were supposed to represent wooden items *must* be kept in the old color. The new grays are passable for a fair number of constructs, but the new "brown" is really awful for things like doors, (...) (20 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Although I have been one of those most jarred by the change, I wanted to say (outside that other thread) that I do appreciate your efforts at mediating between the community and the Company. Heck, that's what your job title is all about, but (...) (20 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Again, baseplates and track, but don't just agree to lock stuff like the Space crater/landing plates and not actually make them available again. Oh, and hair! Geez, I don't beleive noone has brought this up before. Hair and animals. If you (...) (20 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) I'll just repost what I listed (URL) here>: This is what I would like to see continue to be sold in the original colors: current brick packs (#10145-#10147) current plate packs (#10148-#10150) with the addition of 1x1 plates and 'L' plates (I (...) (20 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: snipped I agree with many previous posts: A tub of assorted basic bricks (mostly 1 stud wide), plates, and tiles (1x2,2x2,1x4,etc) in OLD gray. Peeron's listing of the top 100 most common parts is a great resource (...) (20 years ago, 9-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Priority to keep as "old or universal" colors to remain available....Basic bricks, both light and dark gray, in the 1x (1,2,3,4,6,8) are my first choice to keep. I would love to keep ordering them in bulk (100 of 1x2, for example), not in (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: SNIP (...) What if Lego would reverse 1 or 2 of the 4 new colors (lt gray, dk gray, brown, & purple-correct?) instead of all 4? would this be a do-able compromise? it could be like choosing the new M&M or Lifesavers (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: SNIP (...) What if Lego would reverse 1 or 2 of the 4 new colors (lt gray, dk gray, brown, & purple-correct?) instead of all 4? would this be a do-able compromise? it could be like choosing the new M&M or Lifesavers (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| (...) Make a clean break. Get the old colors out of the inventory and let's move on. Nobody asked you to continue making CA bricks once you switched to ABS; it's no different here. Producing parts packs in the old colors will just prolong the agony (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.color, FTX)
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| (...) These are what I think are the most important things to keep in the original colours; 1 x n bricks, all plates, all round bricks, tiles, wedge bricks and slopes are a must in real grey, dark grey, and brown. In brown ones: cowl, hood (from (...) (20 years ago, 10-May-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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