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Re: Progress so far, and a new header
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lugnet.faq
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Fri, 7 May 1999 15:28:43 GMT
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jsproat@geocities.comSAYNOTOSPAM
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Todd Lehman wrote:
> Ahh, good idea. The URLs for the articles are less stable than the Xref
> lines are.
I was afraid of that. :-,
> In lugnet.faq, sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk (Jacob Sparre Andersen) writes:
> > No. We should use full URL's, so we can refer to data
> > outside Lugnet too.
> Yeah...this is pretty important too. And although most things worth FAQing
> will have been posted about and have an external URL in the post, it's
> possible that some thing won't...
I'm prone to just go with the simpler form, copying the X-Ref header, for
several reasons:
a) I don't have to enter the Web interface and search for messages to find
the URL,
b) The URL can be automagically generated using the X-Ref header data.
> BTW, there could be a pair of mutually exclusive (or overlapping) headers
> Reference-URL:
OK, good for true URLS,
> Reference:
How about just copying the "X-Ref:" header char for char?
> or something like that to avoid having to construct the full unwieldy
> article URLs by hand each time. Or calling the header 'References:' instead
> of 'Reference:' and exactly mimicking the NNTP header 'References:' is
> another interesting possibility...
> In general, the closer these FAQ entries can get to NNTP articles, the
> greater the possibilities for enhanced integration with followup commentary.
But they're not NNTP articles. Directly responding to a FAQ item via NNTP
is cumbersome, 'cause there's no point in a thread to respond to.
This is an interesting feature to have, though -- to respond to a FAQ item
and start a discussion around it. It would almost have to be in the Web
interface. Someone responding to the FAQ as posted via NNTP can just cut
the extra stuff out (or risk being flamed for a 15,000-line "me to"
message). No one can really automatically respond to the FAQ in print.
Would it be feasable in the Web interface (at some time in the future) to
have a "Comments" button on the FAQ items, which would bring up the NNTP
post page, with the FAQ item already quoted in the text box?
Cheers,
- jsproat
--
Jeremy H. Sproat <jsproat@geocities.com>
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5249/
"I prefer the term para-mental. It keeps me out of the loony bin."
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Message has 2 Replies:
 | | Re: Progress so far, and a new header
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| (...) The more I think about it, the more I think that this is exactly what I'm oging to do. The "Reference:" header would be a fully-formed URL, while the "X-Ref:" header would tell the parser that it needs to be resolved into a LUGNET article URL. (...) (26 years ago, 7-May-99, to lugnet.faq)
| | | Re: Progress so far, and a new header
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| (...) Independent of the other issue, about representing arbitrarily URLs as Jacob suggested, yes, copying the X-Ref header char for char (anything to the right of the 'X-Ref:' part) is perfectly safe for this purpose. (...) Right now they're not -- (...) (26 years ago, 7-May-99, to lugnet.faq)
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| | Re: Progress so far, and a new header
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| (...) Ahh, good idea. The URLs for the articles are less stable than the Xref lines are. For example, when the new web-interface/hierarchy is moved into place, shortly after that will come a remapping of all the article URLs (but the old ones will (...) (26 years ago, 7-May-99, to lugnet.faq)
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