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LCadville has be renamed Datsville and moved to: (URL) out the new features, and keep those .dats coming! -John Van John VanZwieten <john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:FHEA79.Jtr@lugnet.com... (...) Requests (...) welcome. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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Very nice, John!! One thing that bugs me though is being able to see grass through the windows. Would it be possible for you to change that in an image editing program?? Also, for the fire station, when I post it, should I do a post of the complete (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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John VanZwieten skrev i meddelandet ... (...) Nice, but I think you should move the camera away a bit, and lessen the camera angle, so the picture is not so distorted. BTW, what's the rendering time (I know how long it took me to render just the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Just an idea: Once the town gets big enough to necessitate multiple views, you could do a top view with an image map to link to all the houses/vehicles on LUGNET. --Bram (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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Bram Lambrecht <BramL@JUNO.com> wrote in message news:FHI56p.J1M@lugnet.com... (...) top (...) I'd love to do this! I must confess I have no idea how to do the HTML for this. I've been meaning to ask you how you did it on your page with the space, (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) That's just clever use of background images :) If you want an example of an image map, take a look at the source of my main LEGO page: (URL) are used for the webring links. Basically, you just need to define the pixel coordinates of the link (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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Dennett <dennett@agate.net> wrote in message news:199909031625050...ate.net... (...) That bugs me too. I'd like to keep post-processing to a minimum, so I'd rather find an LDraw or POV solution. (...) Nah, what's a few extra kb of stuff compared to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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Anders Isaksson <isaksson.etuna@REMO...tninet.se> wrote in message news:FHI3Jt.GoB@lugnet.com... (...) camera (...) the (...) go (...) Submit all you like! If Datsville should ever become overcrowded, I suppose we might limit individuals' (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Well, people could make floors. I understand that's a little weird, espeically when people are used to putting things on baseplates, but look at it this way. Your house in the real world has a floor - why should your house in Datville be (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) That will solve part of the problem, but since minifig homes often don't have backs, you end up seeing right through the house. Perhaps I could add glass to all the windows, then define the glass properties in POV to reflect and refract the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) house (...) <blink blink> Hadnt't even considered that. I make opening structures, but I guess that's a bit tricky in a .dat, isn't it? James (URL) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) You could add a large quad to the back of each house...but then you can't see the interiors looking from the back. (...) Tips >for doing this are quite welcome. Wouldn't that add a lot to the rendering time? --Bram BTW, if you want some (...) (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) Sounds good, just leave plenty of flat space in the center. Why don't you include a river running north to south a bit east of the town. One of these days I'm going to add a sunset, too. -John Van (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Make sure that there are plates underneath the building? Or is it grass that is showing through from all the way through the building? (25 years ago, 3-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) Besides, (...) :-) (...) other (...) I'm going to send the files to just you because I don't want to really release the .dats until my webpage is up. I'll send all the trucks separate, but I'll include lines in the station file so that if you (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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I'm using Front Page(don't say anything, that's just what my dad bought, then he got something else which I haven't bothered with.) and it is very easy to do. I could probably try and do one up for you if you would like. Ryan "The purpose of life is (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) of (...) I'm not sure how to make a river (and I don't know where east is :), but I was able to make some hills. Is 500x500 studs enough room? If the town grows too big, you can always scale the height field/sky/fog more. I'll email you the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) If you could just make a recessed area (say 20 studs across) for the dry riverbed, I can add the water. Direction doesn't really matter, since I can just rotate the heightfield. -John Van (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) You got 2 gray 32x32s, just make sure you landscape any area not used by the station or driveways/parking lots. Your station doesn't by chance have bay doors on both sides, does it? The streets on the long sides of your plot are 1-way, so it (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) since (...) OK, I think I can do this using two heightfields, one for the river and one for the hills. I was thinking about making the river wind back and forth gently. Do you want some straight stretches for docks, etc? How deep does the (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Unfortunately, both. The plates underneath I can take care of, but the windows through the unfinished backs of buildings will be difficult-- especially where there isn't any glass. BTW: we now have a train station and so need a train :-) I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Just a few bricks deep. Gently winding river is great, with straight stretches for bridges, docks, etc. -John Van (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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John: (...) Feel free to add my mail van[1] to the scenery. Play well, Jacob 1) <URL:(URL) ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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John VanZwieten skrev i meddelandet ... (...) OK, I'll repaint it, and see how it looks (it's only six mouseclicks in BlockCAD so it's no trouble (I think...)) [...] Oh well, I think I prefer the blue one, but I'll mail you the red/black, and you (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I have a building don in LDraw, it's a breadshop and a butcher's and an apartment above them. I would happily donate it to the project (actually, I'd be proud if it were accepted) but I have a problem: It's built to use a plate as a floor, and (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) This is perfect for Main Street! To prepare it for Datsville, just replace the baseplate with plates. The tiles for the sidewalk sit on top of the baseplates, so you'd want your building to be a plate's thickness higher anyway. This building (...) (25 years ago, 4-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) two (...) the (...) bay (...) are (...) OK it's officially done. I need to build one more truck and that will put the closing 0 at line 999. The trucks are not inlined either. One thing that I do need to know is what color(s) should the trucks (...) (25 years ago, 5-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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Heya all ! Where may I send my .DAT models when I want them give in Datsville ? Rene (25 years ago, 5-Sep-99, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Post them in the lugnet.cad.dat.models newsgroup, with Datsville in the subject line. Can't wait to see it. -John Van (25 years ago, 5-Sep-99, to lugnet.general)
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(...) We should hold back on trains untill someone makes the curved track pieces. And yes trains can do hills. -- Jonathan Wilson wilsonj@xoommail.com (URL) (25 years ago, 5-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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John VanZwieten: How often can we expect updated views of Datsville? I can probably just as well admit that I impatiently have checked the Datsville web site[1] regularly the whole weekend. Play well, Jacob PS: Does it make sense to host Datsville (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hey, your not alone. I've been checking it at least once a day since the whole thing came about. :) Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That is really neat! Today is the first I heard of Datsville, nice work! (...) Not a bad idea, would add a nice touch and all. I'm open to it, anyone else? -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 'You have a pretty sexy voice for being a Lego (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Well, jeez, I updated three days in a row last week, watta ya expect? ;-) Actually, the Datsville stuff is on my office machine, which is why I haven't gotten to do an update this 3-day weekend. I'm hoping to get in today and add what's been (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I don't see any benifit. (Thanks to WebWasher, I don't get those most annoying pop-up windows from sites like GeoCities). Of course, Datsville must be linked to from ldraw.org, but why move it? /Tore (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Which reminds me, I've gotta reinstall Interquick, which is another very nice filter of banner ads and popup windows. It crashed some time ago and I haven't gotten around to getting a new copy of it. As for Datville on ldraw.org, I don't much (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Are those freeware programs, if so, where can they be obtained?? Thanks Ryan ***...*** REPLY SEPARATOR ***...*** (...) annoying (...) and (...) to (...) should (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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WebWasher is a Freeware program from Siemens. It is for non-commercial usage only, and can be downloaded from: (URL) WebWasher Help: What is WebWasher? WebWasher is a software add-on for Netscape and Microsoft browsers which makes it easier to find (...) (25 years ago, 6-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Interquick is not freeware, and can be purchased at (URL) <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 'You have a pretty sexy voice for being a Lego maniac.' - Matt Dearman, while talking to me on the phone (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tore Eriksson: [ hosting Datsville at ldraw.org ] (...) + Some of us do get those annoying pop-up windows[1]. + I believe I can offer a bit more space than GeoCities. + It would be possible to do the renderings on the server. - The ldraw.org server (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Another plus: www.ldraw.org/datsville/ is a much nicer (and easier to remember) URL than www.geocities.com/He...ville.html I'm all for the move, but it's up to John Van. --Bram (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Turn off Javascript. There will be no pop-up windows with Javascript turned off. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Plus, it would open the door to advanced features for Datsville, to allow users more interactive viewing. Right now, with only a few buildings, the single view is great (BTW, you did a nice layout, John!). But if Datsville really grows, it (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Unfortunately, a lot of sites are becoming javascript-dependent. The hassle of having javascript turned off is worse than that of having it turned on. (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:37d53ba8.137228...net.com... (...) This is without a doubt the Holy Grail for Datsville (and display of Ldraw files in general.) POV animation is a start, but something more along the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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You could start with a vew simple views. A "map" overhead view would be the next step, then perhaps "north,south,east and west" views. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Like who? They don't get my visit. But I've never had a problem. If a site requires more than basic HTML, I find that life actually becomes easier if I avoid it. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Is there an easy way to tell POV that a given surface is a one way window type of deal? You could fill in missing walls with a surface which is totally transparent from the outside, and either a neutral color, or the interior color from the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) Well, MediaOne, for a while. I don't use them as my home page (duh) but if I wanted information on anything, that was annoying. SGI's site doesn't _require_ javascript, but it's a lot nicer with. There's others. I wish there were better (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) have (...) properties (...) Great minds think alike! I don't know the answer to this, but I intend to post a question about it on the POV newsgroup. I was thinking about a 1-way mirror. -John Van (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.general)
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(...) This absolutely baffles me. Javascript was the original browser security hole, and even after dozens of revisions, it still causes more annoyance than usefulness. Yet so many people are so incredibly fond of it. :-P (...) That would be nice. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Check out SGI's web page with it turned on. I think it makes an example of good use. (25 years ago, 8-Sep-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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I'm not sure if you've seen it yet, but I've been working on a few new "smaller" elements. Among them are the Texas-style (horizontal) traffic signals and 2 different street light designs. (I've used the shorter street light before in my real Lego (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Well, I took a shot at this (based on your example), but it doesn't seem to be working. Does the image have to be part of a table definition? Here's the code I included (it drew the image but there were no links): <MAP NAME="dats98"> <AREA (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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[ XFUT lugnet.publish ] John VanZwieten: (...) [ ... ] Your code works fine (at least in MSIE-4.5-Mac). If you think you have made some mistakes, it is always a good idea to check the page with <URL:(URL). Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.publish)
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Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FHsFLx.9DL@lugnet.com... (...) The validator mostly just pointed out missing required ALT attributes. I still can't get the code to work, though (at least it doesn't work for me, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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Never mind, I got it (thanks to a post on lugnet.publish--thanks for leading me here!). I was missing a "#" in the USEMAP command. Check the new page out! -John Van John VanZwieten <john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.publish)
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Bram Lambrecht <BramL@JUNO.com> wrote in message news:FHp05w.9s8@lugnet.com... (...) What do I have to do to make this happen? I'm willing to give it a try. What options are there for uploading files to www.ldraw.org? Is there an html editor there, (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FHoLu1.H5H@lugnet.com... (...) Can you explain how this would work? Would this just let me upload the pov files then run them on the server? As this thing gets bigger, that would (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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John VanZwieten: [ ... ] (...) You send me a nice letter asking for an account on my server (remember to use my real address - "reply to author" will not work). (...) FTP. (...) It depends on what you mean by an HTML editor. There is no program that (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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John VanZwieten: (...) Yes. (...) It could be done, but it would demand a bit of patience from the visitors. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hey John, If you wanted a really quick & simple way to make updates, we could make you a special /cad/datsville/ area on www.lugnet.com and you could use the new page editing system. For example, I put together this demo page in about 10 (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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Todd Lehman: [ ... ] (...) Now I am not sure if I should suggest John move to Lugnet or ldraw.org. Hmmm??? It should probably be Lugnet. The only thing I have offered that you haven't is basically a bit of CPU time. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Should I create a .dat archive that people could submit MOC's to the instruction archive. People could browse thumbnails of the rendered models and hyperlink to a page with full size rendering, author info, details etc. KL (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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[ Crossposted to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw ] Kevin Loch: (...) I think you should discuss this with Tim Courtney. He has plans for a similar service at ldraw.org based on the lugnet.dat groups. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Well there is no need to duplicate effort, so if someone else already had that idea I'll let them run with it. KL (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Oh I have "issues" with it all right! I want it! It looks so much nicer than my well-intentioned attempts at html. (...) Lets try it. (...) My plan for the imagemap is to have a standard overhead view, so that the locations of the current (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@sys-323.risoe.dk> wrote in message news:FHt03z.E74@lugnet.com... (...) Perhaps both. The thought of users being able to make their own renderings is very intruiging. Not that we'd necessarily let just any visitor do (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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John, I'm am still interested in importing the town dat file into Lightwave. I've been using Lightwave recently to make some simple studies of various lcad models, and I'd be interested in making a fly by or fly through animation of Datsville. You (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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The town .mpd file can be downloaded at (URL) probably a lot bigger than anything you've dealt with so far, but give it a shot. -John Van Pat Justison <ra6282@email.sps.mot.com> wrote in message news:FHt5K0.13n@lugnet.com... (...) large (...) hasn't (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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John VanZwieten: (...) That is of cause also a possibility. (...) As a beginning, I could set it up as a "request a picture of Datsville", where I process the requests once a day. The web requested renderings will of cause have a somewhat low (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Well, my plans on the MOC archive on ldraw.org are pretty loose and open-ended. I have no set pattern for what should go up there, except maybe a say in the way it is laid out on the page itself. I was planning to base everything in the MOC (...) (25 years ago, 10-Sep-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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