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Re: Todd, can we have an Arctic posting group?
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:24:15 GMT
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mattdm@mattdm.NOMORESPAMorg
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Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote:
And it would automatically go out to all the webpages on the net and fix up
the links where people say things like "discuss this on LUGNET" and give a
link to the article they posted?
And it would automatically go back through all the news articles and fix up
text where people said "it's article 3532 in lugnet.foo.bar"?


Ah. Always a problem in the shifting sea of the web. Sites rearrange and
break links all the time. But in this case, there's something else at work:

The problem is that people are linking to the wrong thing. Article numbers
are arbitrary and per-server. If you decide to make LUGnet be a distributed
network someday, this'll be a real problem. People should be linking by
message id.


And it would automatically fix bugs in newsreaders that can't deal with a
newsgroup having its article count set back to 0?

Wouldn't happen, would it? The group would end up with an equal or greater
number of posts.


--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Todd, can we have an Arctic posting group?
 
(...) But in order to link by message ID, you have to either serve the message by url-encoded message ID (because people will always just cut & paste the URL) instead of by group & number, or give people some way to click a "bookmark or link to (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Message-ID lengths (was: Re: Todd, can we have an Arctic posting group?)  [DAT]
 
(...) Whoops, I forgot to hold off on posting that until my script finished. Those two numbers were just placeholders from memory. OK, the script finished running, and the average Message-ID length is 29.8346 characters, and the smallest of the set (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
  Re: Todd, can we have an Arctic posting group?
 
(...) Possibly. But it does introduce other issues, such as the moving-stuff-around one. And I can think of various possible past and future reasons why you might want to do that. But actually, upon further reflection, does this really matter? I (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: Todd, can we have an Arctic posting group?
 
(...) And it would automatically go out to all the webpages on the net and fix up the links where people say things like "discuss this on LUGNET" and give a link to the article they posted? And it would automatically go back through all the news (...) (25 years ago, 4-Jan-00, to lugnet.admin.general)

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