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  Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
The Space Nazis™ are here! Here we see the Space Nazi Grand Fuhrer boarding the Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz: (URL) Saluting the adoring crowd: (3 URLs) Here he is, snug in the Hakenkreuz's pilot's seat: (2 URLs) After a bad landing (not really, I just (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
I like it but one mistake the swaztika is backwords. In the picture where u have it fliped upside down showing the bottom thats how the swaztika should look (unless u wanted it to be that way for a reason) but other wise cool. -FLIP- (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
Interesting Spiffcraft®, but don't be surprised if this theme gets a cool reception. In fact, it's probably illegal to display your MOC in public in Germany (and maybe other countries). If I may be so bold, perhaps your new faction/theme just needs (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I don't think this is funny. The ship design is uninspired and non-humorous. The Adolf Hitler fig isn't very striking, nor is he funny either. The description of your MOC is pretty plain, and not funny. The only thing at all amusing is the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) !! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) It is reminiscent of the fellow a few years back made Lego concentration camp sets (created his own box artwork). TLG was appalled! Here in the USA we see so many Nazi war movies, we sometimes become jaded to the horrors of the past. But in (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Agreed 100%. I see little to no play value or humor here. This is in EXTREMELY poor taste, and sheds a bad light not just on us as AFOL's, but also on LEGO as the company whose child-themed toys you've used to spread a very adult message of (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Actually, I believe that both the forward and reverse swastika (I have heard the reverse called a sylvastika) are both ancient symbols originating in india. The symbol is found in both ancient Indian budhist and hindu artefacts, and is the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) It's even more sad that crap like this was highlighted. Four times... Where's the delete button when you need it? -- Nathan Wells (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) snip (...) Comments like this highlight the importance of LUGNET. Delete it? You can't even lock the thread! Isn't free speech annoying? Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Wow. Is this the same guy who was built a (URL) entire subtheme> based on another notoriously murderous totalitarian regime? People who live in glass gulags shouldn't throw stones. Chill out, Junior Marshal. Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) The current discussion centers around a symbol of hate & the darkest chapter of modern history. A state-sanctioned doctrine of extermination cannot be compared to a failed economic system. This is orders of magnitude worse. -nk (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
I'm afraid I don't see this theme taking off anytime soon. Not the best period in history to be modeling. It may be that this is supposed to be a parody much like Keith Goldman's Iron Reich or Leonard Hoffman's Eastern Block (sorry Lenny, I always (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Thanks for the thoughtful critique yet again, Marc. The Eastern Block is an ironic look at the future of communism (similiar to Keith Goldman's Iron Reich, an ironic look at futuristic fascism - but not condoning it). And while the Soviet (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Richie: Nice contest entry but I don't think it will win. Everyone else: Don't feed the troll. (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Definitely, when the speaker is irresponsible and uncivil. Freedom doesn't mean one can do whatever the heck one wants. The concept of Freedom must be tempered with responsibility and respect. JOHN (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Try telling that to the (URL). Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Well, I'd say a Space Nazi is here. (...) Why stop there? Why not just call him Space-Hitler, or Star-Hitler or Neo-Hitler? He's got the little mustache already, is this a Boys From Brazil scenario? (...) I don't see a crowd...you should have (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
Hello! Sorry, Richie, you failed. I see the Hakenkreuz and I am not shocked. I know (or assume) you ain't a Nazi yourself, so I'm not shocked about that, either. It's not the first time somebody built something nazi-esque with LEGO, and it will not (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Lenny, I must agree I don't find anything particularly inspiring about the MOC, but.. (...) ..publicised so much? So 2 forums is too much publicity now? And is posting a MOC here bad press now? It received at least 2 non-negative responses and (...) (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) This post, however, is pure comedy gold. Spotlighted. (19 years ago, 8-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I'm sorry you find it uninspired and non-humorous. Actually, it was inspired by a (URL) post> you made back in April last year, which used the term Space-nazi(1). While it would have been good to be able to post a MOC like this immediately (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) An adult message of hatred? Do you think that perhaps turning the symbol on its side, putting a cockpit in the middle and a bubble dome on top, then suggesting that the leader of some faction my fly himself around in it, might actually be (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Well that's a pretty safe bet, given it's ineligible. Go check the rules again. ROSCO (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Upon further review, it's kinda funny that the "correct German way" is only possible when it's crash-landed upside down. Done on purpose? Unless you're looking up at it from underneath, but then you see the butt-ugly landing gear. -nk (will (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Ummmmm....no. No, I don't. I think that this glorifies what has become a symbol of hatred in a way that you possibly didn't realize. Did you mean it in another way? Because if you did, I'm not getting the joke. I'm willing to admit that, if (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) May I ask what contest this might be for? I'm not as networthy as the rest of you all - just don't get the time any more. But I'd be interested in seeing what inspired this...joke. Peace and Long Life, Tony Alexander (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Relax Tony, it wasn't inspired by any contest. That was just lar making another snide comment, based on false premise. ROSCO (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) OH, man...ANOTHER joke I didn't get. OK, time for bed. Happy MOC'ing, everyone! Peace and Long Life, Tony Alexander (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Correct. This MOC was not intended as part of any contest or competition. Cheers Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) The rules to what, Ross? What contest are *you* referring to? I wish you hadn't trimmed the other part of my post, but it may not matter. (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) LOL Larry, you know exactly which one I'm referring to, AND why I'm not gonna post a link here. Were you referring to a different one? If so, which? Maybe instead of the smartass comments you should get back to unskewing that talk to build (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Maybe it was (URL) this one>. Yep, definitely ineligible. (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Lenny, you are completly right! There is definitely no fun in Nazis. To many people have suffered and died under their reign. Those victims in mind I only can feel sorry for those who have forgotten or just don't care! Marco (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Now that statement is actually quite interesting, not for the JLUG reference, but for the "et al". Would you be able to clarify what exactly you mean by "et al" in this case? ROSCO (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Thanks Richie. The relative merit or otherwise of this moc aside, it brings a tear to this old spacer's eye to see lugnet.space getting this much posting activity again. It hasn't been this busy since December last year. Well done. Cheers, (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) No, really, I don't have any idea what contest you're referring to. I infer you have an actual one in mind but I don't know which one. I especially have no idea why you wouldn't want to post a link here. Can you elaborate on that? Why would (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) There are sites designed to be adults only (JLUG) and sites designed to be adults and kids. "et al" refers to any site that is trying to be kid-friendly. One of the good parts about JLUG is that creations that would be inappropriate to (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I find Lenny's EB works to be inspired, creative, and usually filled with a bit of tounge-in-cheak. EB was also created by (URL) Chris Giddens>, not Lenny, though he rocks as an EB builder. EB is part of a bigger universe too with the PCS, (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) So, it's ok to post MOCs about murderous regimes if you are a good builder, but should refain if the MOC is less than inspiring? (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Um, the EB has never killed anyone, I'm pretty sure it's make believe... The death toll in WW2 was in the 10's of millions, Hilter was a bad guy, and so were the symbols of his reign... I'm sorry you can't seperate reality from make believe, (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Well, not to be blunt about it but yes, that is exactly what they are saying. You ever listen to Robin Williams go on about childbirth? (or anyother topic really) But Childbirth isn't really a funny topic. And most people wouldn't consider it (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Wow, has this ever stirred up a hornet's nest. Richie, first about your MOC. You got the basic swastika shape, but little else. If you want to do space Fascists, you have steep competition -- Keith Goldman and Paul Brassington come to mind. (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Neither did the "space Nazis". They are both fictional, and both based on murderous regimes. How's a hammer and sickle any different from a swastika? (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Just as I inferred the same from your statement "Richie: Nice contest entry but I don't think it will win"???? Larry you can't have it both ways. ROSCO (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Sorry for the inference, it wasn't my intent to leave you with a false impression, it was just a figure of speech. As I said before, and as you cut away. Apparently there is some real contest though, isn't there? Perhaps you could tell us (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Lenny please don't attempt to make JLUG something it is not. From the user agreement: "This forum is for discussing any facet of creating with bricks but is intended for a mature audience." It is not and never was designed to be "adults only", (...) (19 years ago, 9-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, lugnet.publish, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) OK, fine, I apologise for not being as well-read as you, and never having seen or heard that phrase before, or anything like it, except in relation to a REAL contest. I don't see my words are any more "clear" about the subject than yours. (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Unclear? Let's review... "Go check the rules again" " LOL Larry, you know exactly which one I'm referring to, AND why I'm not gonna post a link here." Seems pretty clear that you know about this contest, whatever it is, to me! There *is* some (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Unclear? Let's review... "Richie: Nice contest entry but I don't think it will win." ROSCO (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Asked and answered. Multiple times in fact. One more time: It's a turn of phrase. On the other hand, what I asked you (which you cut away, again... why is that??? why keep cutting stuff away, what are you trying to hide??) remains unanswered: (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Ummmm I only see once, but who's counting?????? ROSCO (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) You guys are idiots....cap yourselves immediately for crimes vs. humanity. I think the Space Nazis need to take both of you away. First they came for Larry and nobody cared. Then they came for Rosco and nobody cared. Then they came for (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space) !! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Is it? It's certainly not a common one. Googling the phrase yields nothing, but that might just be reflecting my lack of googling skills. Perhaps you could point some uses of that 'turn of phrase' prior to your using it in this thread? Perhaps (...) (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  5 easy pieces of silver...
 
(...) Only $5.00 ??? Dude, you should have held out for more. But I guess it's hard to get a good price for idiots these days... so congrats for that. (19 years ago, 10-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) How should you know it, Jojo? And even why would you assume it? Would it be that the AFOL comunity is nazi free? <snip> (...) You hit the nail now Jojo! Under other circumstances I would spotlight your post!... As for Mr. Dulin, only two (...) (19 years ago, 11-Aug-05, to lugnet.space)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Richie, I'm sorry that your requests for more constructive criticism, something more helpful than 'not funny' or not winning some mysterious contest, for example, have thus far met with nothing but silence. If I may be so bold, I'd like to (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I wasn't going to respond again in this thread. I've just spent two days away from Lego, away from lugnet, sitting in the sunshine, trying to get my head around what I may have done, wondering if it will be possible to dig myself out of the (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) scoort? I googled it, but all I found was references to dutch websites about soccer. Lar, maybe you could help me with my google technique???? ROSCO (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Look, its a typo. I tried to type 'scooter', but I got it wrong. I make mistakes, okay. Some bigger than others. Much bigger (this whole thread is probably a big mistake). This was a small mistake. Why bother harping on such a small point? Why (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)  
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) This sort of post-hoc rationalisation for shoddy work is more popularly known as 'continually laying bubble', after a certain semi-famous (URL) thread.> Keep layin' it(1), bubble boy. 3o:) (2) Cheers, Allister (1) to turn a phrase. (2) and I (...) (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Well, it wasn't a post-hoc rationalisation. But you're saying that if I want to imply simplicity, then I have to do so in a complex way? Interesting, but this: (...) ??? Whatever. So much for your constructive criticism. Regards Richie Dulin (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) Many apologies. I was attempting to engage in this 'smack talk' thing that seems to be all the rage, apparently without success. Didn't mean to offend. Cheers, Allister (19 years ago, 15-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) My apologies too Allister. You're one of the very few who've posted something constructive in this thread. I over-reacted to your 'smack talk' (I have a personal connection to a 'bubble boy', so I tend to think using the term as a put-down is (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) (propaganda images snipped, then burnt on a large bonfire) (...) They said the sub-theme of Space Nazi Could never be portrayed as artsy Some said the swastika Should be a bit thicker And epic like Koyaanisqatsi (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX)
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) <snip snip> (...) <snip some more> (...) note to self: When wars like the above are going on, do not try posting anything creative to .space - it will most likely be ignored... Not that I'm complaining or anything, but I worked for a few days (...) (19 years ago, 16-Aug-05, to lugnet.space, FTX) ! 
 
  Re: Schpiffkraft Hakenkreuz
 
(...) I wholeheartedly agree with Ross on the talk to build ratio point. Talk is cheap and content is golden. On a lego site, who talks about government trivia? Just build something - given the amount of time to post, I would assume that the task/ (...) (19 years ago, 12-Sep-05, to lugnet.space)  

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