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Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
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Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:26:09 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:

   And if you don’t read the Old Testament for yourself, how will you learn which incense to burn to keep from being immolated by the Lord’s wrath?

Do you mean “to have been kept”?

I’ll need to find the passage again. It’s been a while. But anyway, why is a loving and merciful God immolating anybody in the first place? Heck, by that metric, I’m more loving and merciful than God.

Well, the only human immolating that went on that among the Israelites that I know of is the call for the sacrifice of Isaac (which was recanted anyway).

Still, I would explain such interpretations of God’s will as just that-- contextual to the time (and we are talking 4,000 to 5,000 years ago). That is a loooong time ago.

So my point to you was that we can read how the Israelites understood how they related to their God, not necessary how one can for all time.

  
   The Old Testament contains a lot of historical information, including ancient worship practices, which have changed over time as cultures have changed/evolved.

The important part to glean is that God never changes.

Sorry, but that’s as much a statement of faith as the claim that God exists or that God is good.

It’s true that “God is good” is a faith statement, but God is immutable by definition.

   The really important part to remember is that, until God is proven to exist, God is indistinguishable from a concept, and the concept of God changes all the time.

Nope. First, forget about proving the existence of God which is, again, by definition, NOT possible. God is unknowable, but I think that the Christian understanding of God as revealed by Jesus is about as much as we are going to learn about God (in this lifetime anyway).

JOHN



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Hi, John. (...) I've seen you draw this distinction in other posts here, and meant to ask you how exactly you derive this idea that the Old Testament is "contextual to the time" while the New Testament (presumably in your mind) is not merely so. (...) (18 years ago, 17-Oct-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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  Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
 
(...) I'll need to find the passage again. It's been a while. But anyway, why is a loving and merciful God immolating anybody in the first place? Heck, by that metric, I'm more loving and merciful than God. (...) Sorry, but that's as much a (...) (18 years ago, 17-Oct-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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