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Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
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Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:13:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Brendan Powell Smith wrote:
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Hi, Tim.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote:
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I do think that the translation “Do you think I have come to bring peace on
earth? No, I tell you, but hostility!” as used by the Reverand is probably
not as accurate as “Do you think I have come to bring peace on earth? No, I
tell you, but division!” given the following statements. The implication of
violent division does remain in the next bit of the passage.
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As far as I understand it (though I am not fluent in ancient Greek myself) it
is not merely the context that implies a violent division, but the Greek
word itself. I realize that it is usually translated into English as simply
“division”, but I suggest that this is a (purposefully?) toned down
translation of a word which in Greek implies hostility, dissension, and
strife.
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Ahhh. That changes matters and explains your choice. I didn’t realise you
actually went back to the original text at times. Impressive.
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As you pointed out, certainly the context makes that clear anyhow. Even if I
were to switch to the more traditional translation of “division”, I think the
illustrations would fit just as well.
-Brendan
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I agree completely. I raised the point merely to anticipate arguments about your
choice of translations. The entire passage makes it pretty obvious that Jesus is
inciting people to violence. Whether it is divisive or hostile violence doesn’t
ultimately make much difference.
Tim
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| (...) Just to clear up any misunderstandings, I don't read the actual original ancient Greek text of the New Testament, nor the ancient Hebrew of the Old Testament (though my girlfriend does read Hebrew and sometimes offers me her own translations). (...) (18 years ago, 19-Oct-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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