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Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
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Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:37:22 GMT
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Hi John,

I’ve taken the liberty of only responding to those points which relate to what I believe to be your misunderstanding of science. Here is an article on the scientific method for further reading.

   Really? At what point during a rational evaluation process do you decide something? How can two scientists who evaluate the same evidence draw different conclusions?

This occurs in much the same way that two biblical scholars draw different conclusions: because people can interpret the evidence differently. The difference being that in the fullness of time one scientist’s views should be proved to be better than the others by standing up to more experiments than the other’s view. The same cannot be said about religious interpretation.

--snip--

   Not so much in debates, but IRL. Christian researchers, for example, are considered second-class scientists. The same can be said for any religious academic.

They are second-class scientists as a general rule which is why they are considered as such. Science is about postulating and testing. Since Christian “scientists” rarely have ways of testing their postulates (without the circular argument of referring to the Bible) they are second-class scientists. Of course there are many scientists who are Christian and are perfectly good scientists, they are the ones who consider the Bible as a source of religious revelation rather than of scientific fact.

--snip--

  
   OK, then let me restate. I see no more reason to posit the existence of a Creator than I do Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or the Christian God. It would seem the onus is not on me to disprove the existence of any hypothetical supernatural being someone might conjure up.

But the onus is on you to rationally explain how a universe suddenly just came into being. • --snip-- JOHN

No it’s not. The onus is on the person making the claim, not on the person disputing it.

Tim



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(...) In the fullness of time (ie the end of our lives) we'll either all know or it won't matter anyway;-) This sounds like the time to mention Pascal's wager! (...) I think you missed my meaning. I meant scientists who are Christian, not "Christian (...) (18 years ago, 23-Oct-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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(...) Really? At what point during a rational evaluation process do you decide something? How can two scientists who evaluate the same evidence draw different conclusions? Do you know for sure from where "ideas" that "pop into your head" come? (...) (18 years ago, 23-Oct-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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