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Re: The Brick Testament - More Teachings of Jesus
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Thomas Stangl wrote:
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John wrote:
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OK, then let me restate. I see no more reason to posit the existence of a
Creator than I do Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or the Christian God. It
would seem the onus is not on me to disprove the existence of any
hypothetical supernatural being someone might conjure up.
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But the onus is on you to rationally explain how a universe suddenly just
came into being.
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Occams Razor - the onus is on YOU to explain how an omniscient being
just came into being, then created the universe.
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Heres how: The omniscient, omnipotent being always was, by definition.
Irrational? You bet.
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And if that being was
created by another, who created *that* being (ad nauseum)?...
Why must you insist on making things more complex than they need to be?
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Are you suggesting that this stuff is in some way simple?
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Except one explanation provides meaning and purpose, the other provides
meaninglessness and hopelessness.
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John, youre a pessimistic, negative guy.
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Though weve met a few times, you dont really know me that well because Im
actually a very optimistic, positive person.
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Why does not believing in a Creator lead to meaningless and
hopelessness? It surely doesnt for me.
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So where is the meaning and the hope for you then?
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I feel your belief is more
meaningless, as it depends entirely on irrationally believing (your
words) in an irrational being.
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So you are saying that there is only meaning in the rational? Is there meaning
in love? Can you explain love rationally?
JOHN
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