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Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:04:01 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > Hamas, for instance, has publically declared their desire to not end their
> > fight until Israel is no longer. Peace is dangerous when one side's idea of
> > it is the elimination of the other side.
> There are those in Israel who want to do the same to the Palestinians. You
> are using the views of extremists to condemn a whole nation.
Wanting and doing are two very different things. Besides, I have tried to make
distinctions between Palestinian extremists and the GP all the time. It is my
criticism of them that *they* aren't making that distinction more.
> In the post you responded to I cited two articles. You chose to criticise
> the one backing dialogue and mutual respect. This is despite the unpalatable
> nature of the second text:
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> "I am sure that Jews kill Arabs only for self-defence and justice, but Arabs
> do it because they like to kill."
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> "The Arab has the instinct of murder and killing like all gentiles, and only
> Jews do not have that instinct - that is a genetic fact."
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> So why label peace as "dangerous" and let racism off the hook? Do you not
> view the comments in the second text as "dangerous" also?
Those views are wacky as well, but I reject your attempt to establish some sort
of moral equivalency here. Murdering civilians the way Palestinian terrorists
do is WAY wrong-- it doesn't matter what their grievances are-- it is *never*
justified. They become instantly as guilty as those who oppress them. Do you
agree?
For the most part, the IDF violence upon the Palestinians is in retaliation for
terrorist attacks. They *have* to respond lest they embolden the terrorists.
That is a simple fact. I know you don't agree, and I'm not willing to debate
it. The *worst* thing one can do in response to terrorism is to do nothing--
it is like a big green light to these people. There is no "cycle of violence".
Even if Israel stopped responding in force to terrorist attacks, they would
continue.
-John
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