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Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
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Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:37:45 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
This guy is in *serious* denial.  His thinking is more dangerous to Israel
than Hamas itself.

I am not understanding your comments here, John.

What's so hard to understand?  The guy is not grasping reality:

"The Palestinians cannot drive us away - they have long acknowledged our
existence.

This is simply not true, as I cited.

They have been ready to make peace with us; it is we who are
unwilling to make peace with them.

??? When are they ready-- between terrorist attacks?

It is we who insist on maintaining our control over them; it is we who escalate
the situation in the region and feed the cycle of bloodshed. I regret to say
it, but the blame is entirely ours."

I regret to say it, and I feel for his loss, but he's not in touch with
reality.  The blame is *NOT* entirely Israel's.

Here is a guy who despite what must be tremendous personal loss and grief is
STILL seeking peace.  Rather than look for fault on the other side, he is
introspecting and finding flaws with the Israeli side of the equation.  His
solution is to seek the same path to peace his own departed son favored.  In
trying to carry on with his son's political beliefs he seems to be honoring
his son in the best possible way and for the noblest of causes: peace.

In all honesty, how can you find fault with this noble Israeli's views? If
everyone on both sides of the conflict were as self-sacrificing as this one
guy we'd have peace in the middle-east overnight.

Oh, I admire his *willingness* for peace.  But the reality is that Hamas would
kill him and every other Israeli in a New York minute if they could.  And they
will continue to do so, or die trying.  _They do not want peace_.  Period.  End
of story.  *This* is the harsh reality that the world MUST, *but is unwilling*,
to acknowledge.

If only one side wants peace, then you really can't have peace, now can you?
(unless, of course, the other side kills all of the peace-lovers).

-John



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  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) John, "They" would say that their attacks are in response to Israeli oppression and murder. Indeed, there is little doubt that the current Intifada started with Sharon’s deliberately provocative trip to Haram al-Sharif. Further, there is (...) (22 years ago, 9-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: Is the Palestinian Cause Dead? The Latest Terror Attacks]
 
(...) I am not understanding your comments here, John. Here is a guy who despite what must be tremendous personal loss and grief is STILL seeking peace. Rather than look for fault on the other side, he is introspecting and finding flaws with the (...) (22 years ago, 8-Aug-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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