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Re: "Peace" can be dangerous (was: Re: Peruvian Indians [Re: ..)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:39:03 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > > Yitzhak Frankenthal?s son was killed by the Palestinians while serving in
> > > > the IDF. This is what he said of his son?s killers:
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> > > > The Palestinians cannot drive us away - they have long acknowledged our
> > > > existence. They have been ready to make peace with us; it is we who are
> > > > unwilling to make peace with them. It is we who insist on maintaining our
> > > > control over them; it is we who escalate the situation in the region and
> > > > feed the cycle of bloodshed. I regret to say it, but the blame is entirely
> > > > ours.
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> > > This guy is in *serious* denial. His thinking is more dangerous to Israel
> > > than Hamas itself.
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> > In what way John? Personally, I think what he is trying to do is laudable:
> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/11/15/MN74126.DTL
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> > Why is peace so dangerous in your view?
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> Because the Palestinians are not one-minded.
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> Hamas, for instance, has publically declared their desire to not end their
> fight until Israel is no longer. Peace is dangerous when one side's idea of it
> is the elimination of the other side.
There are those in Israel who want to do the same to the Palestinians. You
are using the views of extremists to condemn a whole nation.
In the post you responded to I cited two articles. You chose to criticise
the one backing dialogue and mutual respect. This is despite the unpalatable
nature of the second text:
"I am sure that Jews kill Arabs only for self-defence and justice, but Arabs
do it because they like to kill."
"The Arab has the instinct of murder and killing like all gentiles, and only
Jews do not have that instinct - that is a genetic fact."
So why label peace as "dangerous" and let racism off the hook? Do you not
view the comments in the second text as "dangerous" also?
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> When I see Palestinians resist their own who sabotage their efforts for peace
> (ie Hamas) will I become hopeful.
Perhaps others say the same of the IDF.
Scott A
> -John
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