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"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:G2v4Dt.3C@lugnet.com... (...) hard (...) you... (...) it (...) Sorry, I was talking about the total destruction of Israel part. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) why not? Jordan's population is 90% palestinian. The only thing stopping it from being a palestinian state is that the palestinians are not the ones running that country. So why is it not true? Dan (24 years ago, 23-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This may be semantics and I may be repeating myself, but like I said, I think a meritocracy (that is, the "rule" of those with merit) based elitist system is a good basis for a specialised hobby community like LUGNET. I think it IS semantics (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, I try to stay away from debates in general - I usually keep my opinions to myself, unless they are really close to home (like this one). So, you probably don't know my opinions in general - thus you don't really know if I agree w/you or (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Which, the Me-2'ing or the particular target? :-) I didn't know we were in DISagreement all that much, actually. (...) I guess I find this a bit surprising... I after all said that I didn't think Israel should have been created in the first (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) You might be surprised.... For instance (correct me if I am wrong!), you have a good sense of humor, you are a cat person, and IIRC it was you who recently made that utterly charming statement about not knowing enough offensive words to be (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Scott A wrote in message ... *I really did not want to add posts to this thread as it is feelings inolved, byt hey, I could not help myself...* <snipped> (...) Yes, especially in Northern Ireland... Wouldn´t it be greate to give that piece of the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Shiri Dori wrote: <snip> (...) Very good point. And should be taken seriously by any other TV-room-history/inte...ecialists. Selçuk (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I really like this advice. --Todd (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I also agree all of the points made, but I say a strong YES! to this. No, for the clueless, Turkey is not an Arabic country, and I'm not an Arab, but I really know what is like living in *any* Arabic country. I also know very well the look of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I won't reply to all this because Me-2'ing Larry is just not something I like to do ;-)... and I really agree with pretty much everything he says. Just wanted to add some small things. In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: [...] (...) (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Are you comparing Barak, a democratically elected leader of a democratic state that tolerates dissent and has a free press and the rule of law, and mechanisms to carry out investigations of wrongdoing and a justice system that administers (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I would like to believe that as well, but I cannot do so in light of the past events. Arafat was supposedly for peace, and we in Israel hoped for a serious chance to acheive it. But now it seems that the Palestinians who want peace are not a (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) hard (...) I know extemists want that, but they are etremists. I read what in the UK is called a "seriouse" newspaper. I also listen to the good old BBC, which is, overall, pretty fair. Neither say what you claim. Perhaps this is part on the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It is though. That's exactly what they want. (As for what you said in reply to my post - well heck, Larry didn't intend this to be a debate about the US either, right? He was just proving a point. You argued it's not true. He said it and he's (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Not a "slag", and to just the USA. (...) I'm not sure that is true. (...) That was years ago. I'm not pround of. It is in the past. (...) ...and what about all the murderous dictators uncle sam (and the other "western" nations) supported (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:G2uEK7.81r@lugnet.com... (...) This is (...) There's (...) Yup. (...) an (...) I know, you're mean! (...) Hehe ;-) As I said before, I'm really glad I'm not attached to you :-P (and I pity the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I did not really intend this to be a Palestinian V Israeli debate, that always ends in looking levels of wrongness. However, if the current leader in Iraq or the former leader of serbia were to use the same methods - how would that be treated (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. Personally, I got to know a few people after repeatedly trading with them, because we used to slip in tidbits about RL happenings within the posts or emails. Even those little things go a long way later on. (...) I'd say the same for me. (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Oh dear. I knew it'd come to lugnet too sometime. I've had enough politics in the past three weeks to last a lifetime, but here goes anyway. (...) Maybe true. In fact, probably true. (...) Oh my. Why *would*/*should* the US remove its so-called (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:G2tqEs.Asu@lugnet.com... (...) plainly (...) much (...) I, (...) the (...) of (...) friendlier (...) read. (...) what (...) Hatter (...) lot (...) inappropriate (...) why (...) good, (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Selçuk, After reading your post and Tim's, I must throw in a "Me too" (as much as those posts are highly detested around here ;-). In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes: [..] (...) As am I. I don't think anyone is really *for* it, but (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) I can add at least South East Anatolia and Cyprus to the list. I believe that, too, if Uncle Sam puts his hands on an issue, it is solely for his own gain (no matter political or monetary), and either he gained (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Disagree. I have reviewed more of that unpleasant thread and looking at the direct replies to the first post, none of them are anywhere near the level of unfriendliness that MM ended up at. If anything, most of them were friendlier than MMs (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) That was a throwaway comment and I didn't expect a debate, but since you're slagging the US, here I am. (...) Not sure I agree that everything the US does externally is for the benefit of the US. I think it *should* be, but it isn't. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'd say the UN is/should be the world's policeman. What the US (and others) do independent of the UN is political mumbo jumbo all based on selfish gain. Take what is happening in the middle-east right now. If the US were to withdraw some of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Eric Kingsley wrote in message ... (...) didn't (...) such (...) attention 0>and if you ignore them they eventually go away. I know that is hard if not (...) for (...) While I would agree that ignoring someone rude is preferable to flaming them, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I suspect he was positing a rhetorical... (...) Way to be open minded and inclusionary there, son. :-) (lurkers, Mr8wide and I go way back, there's no real hostility there (well maybe when John looks in the mirror, but I digress). ++Lar (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Sorry, couldn't resist when I saw the word "compartmentalisation". I'm sure you remember that little flap in RTL about a year ago... Actually, the post was just simply my little way of posting "I agree". Unless you want to argue whether my (...) (24 years ago, 21-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I don't think is the right group for that... Steve (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think the Lugnet community needs to make a substantial effort to be inclusive, and a major part of this is how established members conduct themselves in the discussion groups. If someone is posting destructive remarks, don't reply to them in (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Three cheers for compartmentalized dorks! >;-D -John (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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John Robert-Blaze Kanehl wrote: <snip> (...) <snip> Well, I doubt *all* would say that....;-) -John "8 wide or death" Neal (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This old one? (URL) was just one year ago. And you still havn't learn... (...) Please... (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) didn't (...) G'day Eric, Y'know, I can't remember how many times I've read that advice in regards to disruptive posts or heated discussions. Having posted in electronic forums since before there really was an internet, I've seen it a lot. But (...) (24 years ago, 20-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this... there is *nothing wrong* with being elitist... as long as it's a meritocracy. In large part, that *is* the way things operate in a lot of groups, there are people who most people know are (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Jude Beaudin" <shiningblade@home.com> wrote in message news:G2ovu8.n12@lugnet.com... (...) impossible (...) everyone's (...) Regardless of 'leader' status, I think that the good thing here is that we can get to know each other personally through (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I can see your concern but I wouldn't really worry about it. Although I didn't participate in the thread yesterday I did read it. To me responding to such posts is like throwing water on a grease fire and thats why I have come to avoid them. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Aye. And remember, this is a discussion forum. Some very good posts don't lend themselves to further discussion, and so don't get much (or any) follow-up. And some very crummy posts get tons of followup. (...) Not that it's wrong either. Trust (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tim, Wise words. It is a pity that some of these things have raised their heads before, let's hope this is the last time. The golden rule is to never say anything online that one would not say in person to anyone. I'm not saying I'm perfect (others (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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<snipped to conserve space> Tim is right, we do need to take some time and reflect. Let us 'Selah' for a time and make some constructive changes to the community to improve things. I have been participating in LUGNET for several months now and must (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Certainly not, I apologise for not being clear. What I meant was, when I said I had not personally insulted you, you took umbrage because the conversation was suddenly about you and I- I meant only to widen the scope of my statements, ie, "I (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure what you mean by this? Are you saying you are some sort of martyr for all of LUGNET versus me? (...) As you are a member of society. You have a obligation to think of others, and generally be a nice guy. You don't have to (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, most writers can manage to get their point across clearly without the need for emphasis, because they know that the written word doesn't carry any. (...) You responded to my post, pretty much as I predicted you would. (...) You're right. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) would (...) agree? (...) were (...) another to (...) *You* must find it *really* hard to read books if there are *no* pointers to the *important* words in the sentences? Perhaps *your* mother underlines them for *you*? :-) (...) you (...) (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I haven't been on Lugnet very long, but whenever someone identifies themselves as being new, I will try to welcome them and give them some comments. If someone just posts something like "Hey look at this" I often don't respond to it (unless (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) No, it's unfortunate. (...) Goes without saying. --Todd (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) In all seriousness, I don't understand your question, mostly because if it were communicated verbally, there would have been emphasis on one word or another to give me a clue what you meant. I'll assume what you meant is: "It's not what *you* (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Selçuk Göre writes: [snip for time's sake - test in 40 minutes :\ ] (...) [snip] (...) You hit it right on here. I don't think we see very much not allowing certain people to participate based on their status in the (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hey don't worry about it - I personally enjoy your posts anyways :) [...] (...) Both of those cases are understandable. Because of the word 'Community' here - there will be ALL types, even types who don't find it useful to devote time here. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) is (...) It is not what you consider to be a flame which is important - do you agree? (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That's ok then. (...) Perhaps that it is not a good thing? Scott A (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hi Tim, Actually, I'm also thinking the subject of "is lugnet elitist?" from time to time, and even throw out some of my 0.02 Turkish liras about the subject in some cases, both in RTL and here in Lugnet. I'm strongly against elitism and alienating (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ok...I occasionally babble, I'm long winded (and unrepentently so...), and I am a fanataical advocate of commonly disparaged themes. That's my contribution to the wackiness of this community... (hey, every village needs an idiot or madman) (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A little introspection can be healthy, too much self analysis can be paalyzing and counter-productive. I believe that any valid points he had to make were outweighed by his aggressive, nay combative, immature, and myopic attitude. However, (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tim Courtney wrote in message ... (...) point, (...) have (...) I think your friend is right... As a newcommer, I also have this experience. But I think that is common in a "community", in whatever media it is represented in. Sometimes it feels (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I think you're on to something there. There have been some not very nice incidents. It's so easy for us, in the heat of the moment, to let our indignation climb until we say things we might not have meant to say in a calmer moment. No one has (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't overreact the other way either, I for one figured that you hadn't seen the ban when you posted and just wanted to make sure that people realised it's (mostly) over, and we should put it behind us and move on. (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Well, whatever it was, it's gone now. I got a small piece of text saying it had been removed at the request of a friend when trying to access that link. Cheers ... Geoffrey Hyde Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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This whole thing has gotten me thinking -- Matthew was out to prove a point, right? Matthew is also a jerk and has serious problems, right. But, just because he carried himself *very* poorly here doesn't mean he might not have something valuable to (...) (24 years ago, 19-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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(...) Two people already marked the above as "Spotlight." That's disappointing. :-( Jude, I don't care if you put pages up like this (it's your right, naturally) but I would *really* appreciate it if you kept my name and LUGNET's name out of it. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) True. My spelling is actually very bad. My comments were typed in anger and are not actually the way I feel. I am sorry for the comments. It won't happen again. Bryce McGlone (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I happen to agree. Since this thread started, I've exchanged a few emails with the lovely Mr. Moulton, and I have to say, I think he may have actually crossed the line-- just not in the way that anyone has before, I think. His admitted intent (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Bryce, you're speling is medicore. <gd&r> Anyway, I'm a diehard Space fan, and a big fan of many Space MOCs from people here in the community, and I sure thought Matthew's weaponry (especially the bombs) was great stuff -- ingenuitive, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Wow, this is a touchy subject. There's no easy answer. I think JW has changed a lot from when he had all of the CAD group up in arms. But back then, something needed to be done. Take my word for it. Was it done correctly? Reading back over (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tim Courtney wrote in message ... (...) might (...) I do regret dredging up something so long since past, especially today, but it was just these events of today that spurred me into seeking an end to a nagging sense of unfairness I have felt about (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well said Larry. You are very right about me not making sense. My apology to the group. Obviously my frustration was at a boiling point. (...) Agreed. Bryce McGlone (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bryce McGlone writes: <snip> Attacking Matt at this point, after he's been banned and can't even respond (not that we want him to) probably doesn't make a lot of sense. While your venting is understandable, at this point (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) IMHO, no, you didn't fail; you've been quite measured and careful throughout. For our protagonist to claim the high ground of "civility" at this late juncture is analogous to expecting an apology to atone for, say, running over some- one's dog (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) D'oh! I forgot my own footnote. [1] I was there to flame. I enjoy flaming people. I don't think it's a big crime, especially if you keep it to places where it's appropriate, such as alt.usenet.kooks, alt.flame, ne.internet.services (circa (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) AUK is defintely alt.usenet.kooks. I have spent some time there myself, it is definitely a flame group. The entire purpose of the group is to ridicule, well, "usenet kooks". People that post there generally get there in one of two ways- either (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I can feel the same way with you. Completely. I'm also agreeing with you on your first choice..:-) Actually I can't express myself well since I don't know enough offensive words in English. But Jonathan Wilson is completely out of subject here (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Fells like that? whoa... Thank you Todd, I feel like you shouldn't wait this much..:-) I personally believe that if I can't find anything to say for an individual's behavior other than "what kind of an *** **** are you?" (I know much better (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I'd go farther than "giving him a chance", actually. I see him as a solid contributor to LUGNET and to the LCAD community at this point. (winning the model of the month with that absolutely STUNNING shell station really solidified the CAD (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Me too. --Todd (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <emphasis mine> (...) Clever, that, posting the MOST inflammatory stuff somewhere else instead of here, and just giving a link from here to there. Very clever skirting of the ToS indeed. ++Lar (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Don't kill yourself Todd. Though you feel it was inappropriate, and it might well have been, we don't need to be bringing up old beans after this. Lets all take a breather and save examining our past here for another rainy day. I, at least, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I apologize to the L-CAD community for posting that publicly. It should have been a private e-mail. --Todd (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | Re: blowharding (was: Re: No promises when I'll be done, but...)
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(...) <snip> (...) Jeez, I know that by now he's been banned, but: I fully admit to telling him he should grow up and not be so rude, but he makes it sound like I ran over his dog or something. I tried very hard today to attack the -behavior- and (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) AUK = alt.usenet.kooks, in my 'net experience. it's a newsgroup used mostly for flaming/trolling, and it's where people like Matthew end up. some of the regulars there are bad news. (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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Mike Stanley wrote in message ... (...) crap (...) J.W. - Would you, perchance, be referring to one Jonathan Wilson? If so, then while we're on the subject of unrepentant rudeness, would someone please care to direct me to the public apology made (...) (24 years ago, 17-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) alt.usenet.kooks? (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Matthew's posting privileges are now disabled (to all groups) after the past round of abusive messages he posted. Lord knows if he's the same person who identified himself/herself at "Madhatter" in RTL last year, but there's been plenty enough (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Matthew, darlin, get a grip. I'm sorry, but you do realize that it was *obviously* not just what you said to Jude that got everyone here riled up. You said yourself that you made up that whole discussion on your site. That it's not your (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Just my two bits ..... A while back, I taught metaphysics class on AOL( yea yea lame but I had to start somewhere <G>) anyway, these chat rooms are open to the aol public and folks would take it upon themselves to stop in and disrupt the class to (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's not always important that everyone agrees with you, you've just got to be careful about whether the really important people disagree with you. Like the police for instance. (...) Seems awfully strange to mention the police at a time like (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Ok, It started with "this site sucks" From Matt Then "rude" Then "...this site would interest me if I were a 6 year old" From Matt And "...idolizing James Jassim as a god" From Matt Then "...provided you grow up" So on and so fourth.... Nastier and (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Actually, the incident I was referring to above wasn't you -- it was someone else. But anyway... (...) I don't think I participated in that discussion. I pretty much stopped posting to RTL after 1998. I do remember reading parts of it, though. (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Matthew wrote in message <39ed018c.2602594@ne...et.com>... (...) Matthew, you seem to be unaware of one of golden rules of human life: APOLOGISE FOR BEING RUDE. You aren't being shunned for being rude. You are being shunned for being rude and being (...) (24 years ago, 17-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Almost sounds like a threat. --Todd (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Hiya Matt! (...) ??? But you as much as asked for us to treat you that way: (...) So give us some credit - we've only treated you in the way you've indicated you prefer to be treated. It's only the civil thing to do. I agree that honest criticism, (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well that's kinda cool, cheating the system that tries to cheat you. Ever work in price management for a company Todd? There are legal, as well as allowed ways of "stealing". I remember when I got two huge boxes of Power Aid at 8 cents a (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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L-O-N-G rant follows I purchased my little web box a couple years ago to learnmore about the internet... I soon found that the internet is not a place or static picture, it is a dynamic, growing, breathing entity ... sometimes more of a monster than (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) A couple years ago, someone in RTL was crowing one day that they had switched price tag stickers on a LEGO set at Wal*Mart and had gotten away with a steal. When people came down hard on him and called him dishonest, deceitful, etc., he came (...) (24 years ago, 18-Oct-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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