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(...) Well, I say bring'em back! True False False :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Little rules I live by... #13 13. "If you can't even get the 9th circuit to go along with your (URL) kooky agenda>, then you are really kooky." Oh where is the cacaphony of criticism from the Creedless? :-) JOHN (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I miss those days. Just 10 minutes ago I was reading a blog-- (URL) was quite 'educated' about this Zarqawi guy. According to the blog, basically we killed a straw man--he really wasn't much of anything. And then I went and read this one about (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Chris Magno wrote: <snip> . (...) Me! Me! Me!!! I want sarcasm!!!!!! If it was my contest, and only if it was my contest, I would have stated in 'da rulz' that Joe Vig has to be composed of such'n such colour of torso, (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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--SNIP-- (...) --SNIP-- Dear Janey, I have to take issue with the above statement. A yellow round one by one is one of these things [LDrawPart 3062B:14] whereas I'm sure you mean a yellow head [LDrawPart 3626B:14] which is an entirely different (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My "good old days of Lugnet" metre was fit to burst (again) but this post has well and truly deflated it. Thanks. Rant averted. Tim (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I miss the good old days in ot.debate when we discussed real issues, and our opinions had wide-ranging impact well beyond the bounds of LUGNET. Why, my musings on the virtues of government subsidized medicine led directly to Canada's implementation (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Marc Nelson Jr. wrote: SNIP Marc, I will endeavor to be as simple as I can in my reply, I hope you will be able to read deeply into the answers, as short as they are. (...) Yes. (...) YES. (best 6 year old voice I can (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Seatop is a brig, as I specified in my post, not a ship. See (URL) for further details. Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It's a joke, Larry. Or am I the only one that thinks this whole 'discussion' is hilariously absurd? Allister (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yes. There is a warm and embracing community here, or what's left of one, and it acted the way we all have seen it act in the past, warmly, as you describe above. The part you missed though, is that there is also a much less warm and embracing (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate) !
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Hey all, I'm confused as to the "debate" here. This seems a perfect example of community. Two community members sponsored a contest to encourage building and donated the prizes (including the first prize as a $50 set). Another community member was (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) While there is no need for debate for this particular example I don't think it is entirely unneccesary. The debate goes beyond the current example into the wider realm of contests, rules, strict interpretations, internet manners etc. Just (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hello, Paul. Thank you for your opinion. For the record, Nathan and I were in complete agreement prior to my reply to Linus. (...) We are very sorry to hear that. Your response seems to be a very personal attack on me, but that is your (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It is always hard to get one's message and tone across in a written medium. I did not find Nelson's message inconsiderate, or perceived him as having an attitude - it was simply a direct and honest answer. As I stated earlier, in the end I am (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) My sentiments as well. I'm glad the rules are enforced, which ensures that this contest is more enjoyable in the end. There really is no need for a greater debate than that. (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To defend Lenny (whose reply I found amusing) and also Nelson, who's being painted as some sort of bad guy for enforcing the rules of his contest. Why would you want to take a shot at me? (...) That's why I said "like". It was an example. (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did you post this message just to defend Lenny, or because you wanted to take a shot at Chris? (And before you ask: Yes, I am posting this because I want to take a shot at you.) (...) Why? It seems John's already posting the mandated head. (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Did you post this message because you are "saddened", or because you wanted to take a shot at Lenny? If you don't like the contest sponsors' ruling, then do something helpful, like John Neal did. Or maybe sponsor your own contest - one without (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) (Lone-Clap, Clap, Clap) Lets hear it for the great orator; Lenny. With sympathy like that, who needs enemies? I tried to succinctly explain that I was stunned by a decision that was made, for what appeared to be, valid reasons. I said “I was (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I'll jump in and agree with Chris and Janey. 'Big Daddy', you're reply was not very considerate. You could have moderated the tone of your reply just a little. Did you canvas the curators of the .vignette group before posting? Or did you (...) (18 years ago, 13-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Wow, (while I can give a polite "LOL" to the well played sarcasm,) my stomach turns as socialism takes another blow in the face from capitalism. Lenny while I have always respected your points, and will continue to here... either you are the (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Silly to some, opportunity for others. I'll see what I can do.... JOHN (18 years ago, 12-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, that sounds like a challenge. I'll see what I can do... (...) Well, now you're just being silly. Dave! (18 years ago, 12-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I tend to agree. Also, the contest should be expanded to anyone who can't afford LEGO bricks. Allowing MegaBloks, Tyco, BestLock, and BTR pieces for the Joe Vig Contest should be allowed. Heck, some might not be able to afford building block (...) (18 years ago, 12-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, I'm just a lurker as well so maybe I, too, missed some inside joke, but I took it for real, and my offer still stands. JOHN (18 years ago, 12-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Violence and spaceships always work. Everyone knows that. Legoswami (18 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Comooonnn, don't troll people like that....:-) Lego is violent, and was violent,too. For ages. All the "classic" castle, pirate, western sets have guns and weapons, in very realistic forms. The two recent awesome a/c sets are artfully crafted (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hi, Paul, Not speaking for Will, of course, I must say your comments are well-taken. Please understand I am coming from a completely unbiased stance myself, and I won't try to take a stab at the "official" take on this issue. All I know is (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) May I suggest the use of black minifig hands for a Bipod stand?? Somehow, though, the enthusiasm which greets your (admittedly well-crafted) product disturbs me. Must we include violence in our dioramas? Doesn't violence somehow stand in (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jun-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.build.military, FTX)
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(...) That's very true. Whatever else LUGNET has been/can be, its members have never failed to rally in support when one of us has faced crisis or trauma. Some of the best moments that I can recall since first coming here back in 1999 have been the (...) (18 years ago, 31-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Yikes! I didn't even think of that. I just assumed that, as usual, all dissent was quelled by my stirring rhetoric and unassailable logic. Dave! (18 years ago, 31-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ah yes. It would have been rather churlish to continue. Strange that I don't remember that thread since I was reading lugnet quite frequently then and certainly remember the kindness and compassion shown after September 11. Tim (18 years ago, 31-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'm sure that thread would have gone on longer, but if you look at the dates of the posts you can see why it stopped. Maggie C. (18 years ago, 31-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's just the sort of comment I expect to see from a white man. (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) All seriousness aside, your olfactory observation rings partially (WRT me) true. I came online for the first time when I joined LUGNET, and was very disoriented with the concept of discussing ideas, etc with my fingers. Discussions I had in (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I just finished smoking a cigar with a friend, so I am, too. But I empathetically deny that spurilous characterization by Dave! ;-) JOHN (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) I just took a power supply that reeked of burnt plastic/wires out out of an HP desktop, so I'm pretty much a stinker right now, too... Dave K (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Ahhh... Those good old days of Lugnet!.. Such nice memories... I really miss them... And look what it turned into? (now it might get that long..:-)) Selçuk (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No way! Our arguments were entirely the civil disagreements between gentlemen and ladies who held as their ideal the very paragon of polite discourse. Besides--John Neal and Dave Koudys were such stinkers back then! Dave! (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) 103 posts... I'd be surprised if this gets that long. LUGNET was so much more volatile in the old days ;) Tim (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) LUGNET veterans will recall that there's (URL) nothing new under the sun.> Dave! (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I was using trolling in the sense of inviting me to respond in an annoyed (and thus reduced) capacity. Having just skimread the wikipedia article I think this is one of a great many uses of the word but probably not the most common (there (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ??? Fell for what? You'll have to explain to me what I did to be accused of "trolling". All I see are people with honest differences of opinion. Do you believe that it's possible for people to have honest differences of opinion? Marc Nelson (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Hi sergant, I served, For two years almost. And you know what? It SUCKS, really. It is the most unreasonable place that I've ever been in my whole life. I'm not complaining about that. I actually accepted and really believe it must be that way. You (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well trolled. I completely fell for that one. I still have to argue there is a world of difference between saying something is a racist statement and saying someone is a racist. Tim (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, you can argue all you want about whether people who want bricks to be made in Denmark are racist - especially since you did the right thing and posted to o.t.d. That's what it's here for. My last sentence was just a tongue-in-cheek (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Hey, isn't le phoque a violation of the LUGNET TOS re: profanity? Dave! (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, John, John, Three things... 1. Tim is a world away from the centre of the universe and therefore has to fly for many, many hours to be shot in the face by your vice president. 2. Didn't the plantation owners have the biggest rooms on the (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Tim, Tim, Time: I noticed you bigotted comment about the Army. Actuall the Army integrated in 1948 under Truman. I believe that predates Selma and other marches for freedom and was also before Martin Luther King. Now put down the dictonary and get (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I have no problem with you not being able to spell. I just think it is unwise to be unable to spell and to call someone thick. (...) So because you had a problem with some hooks from a Chinese company you now believe that all production in (...) (18 years ago, 30-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I could never spell and am too old to change that. That is why Microsoft Word has a spell check. At work my typing was done by the secertary. No matter, seems to be your problems and not mine. For an example, we ordered 40,000 hooks from China. They (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) LOL - That's definitively a weird-hypocrite-stupid behaviour. (and quite probably the reason why I haven't heard of it before today) (...) ok thanks for the recommendation but I'm not sure to want to taste it. I don't like too much liqueurs. (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Eeek, another racist! Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It can apparently be (URL) produced for export> in France, and even sold in France if you don't call it 'absinthe'. I recommend the (URL) de Fougerolles 72>. Marc Nelson Jr. (URL) Marc's Creations>> (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Incorrect use of logic vs. amusing response... which will win. I think I'll just link to the (URL) lyrics of a wonderful song>. Tim (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Coming from a man who obviously can't grasp the subtleties of logic let alone the English language being called thick is really quite a compliment. I suggest you take some of the money you presumably have from your management of a (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Absinthe ? Do you mean the drink made from absinthe? This drink is not allowed to be sold in France (since 1915). The "French absinthe" you are talking about is more probably from Switzerland. (where it has been legalized in 2005) Not a big (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The Chinese make tat? That's a racial slur if If ever I heard one. Tim's a racist. Racist here. Everyone point at him and make a scowly face. Racist. Racist. (I'm using your own logic). Steve (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) See, I knew I was right. Steve (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Is this the new Marc Nelson Jr rule of Lugnet where he is allowed to complain about things he doesn't like but other people aren't? It's good to see you hate arguments so much you feel compelled to join just about any one you see. Tim PS. And (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Is that American gasoline, or the superior Venezuelan product? Cheers Richie Dulin (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Lighten up, Francis. I don't know about little plastic bricks, but I can tell the difference between Czech absinthe and French absinthe with my eyes closed (hint: the Czech stuff tastes like gasoline). Is absinthe better if it's made by (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Managed a multi-million dollar company- and can't manage to spell? Whatever. Another Tim (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tim: You are a bit thick. Neither am I racist. I actually was a race relations consuler for the Army for many years in Korea. You just said some stupid things and I see that you are a person that cannot admit he flew off the handle. To bad, but to (...) (18 years ago, 29-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And what has this got to do with the Czech Republic? As I said in the first response Lego aren't even making bricks in China. What they are making in China is the Lego branded plastic tat and things like the Dino2010 Dinosaurs. (...) I just (...) (18 years ago, 28-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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Tim: I did not mean the comment to be bigot, I think that the quality suffers. I managed a multi million dollar corp. for 14 years after retiring from the Army. I have been stationed in Europe and in Korea. As a GM I dealt with products from China. (...) (18 years ago, 28-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Dear Steve, This argument doesn't actually match my comment. If you were to argue that the quality of Lego would go up if it was manufacured in Japan it would be the same. You're comparing apples and pears here. (...) This may apply to China (...) (18 years ago, 28-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) So If I said the Japanese made high quality electrical goods, I'd be accusing them of being racially superior would I? The whole point of moving production to China is because the work force isn't as well educated as the people in the west. I (...) (18 years ago, 28-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm pretty sure that Lego bricks aren't made in China, only certain extra stuff. I have to say that I very much resent the implication here that stuff made in China or the Czech Republic will be inferior. I would hope you would keep such (...) (18 years ago, 28-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Hang'em high I say. They are contemptible, despicable, disgusting excuses for human beings. They are living examples of what is bad and wrong with America. JOHN (18 years ago, 25-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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To anyone who would try to use power and privilege to bilk millions out of a failing company at the expense of investors and employees, (URL) Lay and Mr. Skilling> may have a few cautionary words of advice. Bravo to the prosecution! Dave! (18 years ago, 25-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Well, if, say, there were 800,000 of them in the continental US, and they were crowding into cities, eating seagulls and pigeons in the streets, etc, I think I'd probably allow them to be hunted. But yeah, in general, I think you're right-- I (...) (18 years ago, 23-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Readers may be surprised to learn that I don't know a whole lot about intra-tribal law, so my comments must be taken with a grain of salt. To be honest, I don't know why the Bald Eagle would ever be taken off of the Endangered Species list. I (...) (18 years ago, 23-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) Let's kill bald eagles> When or where will political correctness finally end? This is simply NUTS! I've forgotten-- didn't they rule that sacrificing chickens for religious purposes was illegal for some reason? Maybe they, uh, chickened out (...) (18 years ago, 23-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I'm bracing for (URL) it>. Methinks they doth protest too much? JOHN (18 years ago, 11-May-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I'll bet that his statements in context would speak for themselves. The guy is a conservative, not a synchophant. (...) I'll explain it-- it's called "partisan politics";-) (...) In the interests of full disclosure, I must admit (and I've (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) the best in technical style... but I have to agree... this production "its worth the 2:47 of your time to watch". I think this is an interesting use of Lego, nice to see an interesting message being presented. I would like to see more "films" (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I didn't mean it that way. Snow's choice to accept the job of Bush Spokesman, after blasting Bush so poignantly, smacks of hypocrisy unless Snow cares to retract or explain his earlier remarks. Kind of like how Cheney, in 1998, declared high (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I suspect that Murdoch is a pure whore. If he thought he could get more money by supporting Democrats, he'd be waving that banner instead. (...) And sometimes behind my actual seriousness I'm being wryly humorous. nyuk nyuk nyuk (...) Well, to (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It only shows that he is a FREE thinker and not a party hack. You damn him if he does, and damn him if he doesn't. (...) ALL media sources are biased. They are comprised of people, who have their own political views. At least FOX recognizes (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Are you kidding? Snow's words are his own--let's hear his own accounting for them. And do you really believe that FoxNews is a neutral media outlet? Before answering, please omit references to the so-called "liberal" media sources like CNN and (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That's what I'm talking about. Don't tell him I said so because he'll just get a big head, but I have the utmost respect for Dave! But I've found that sometimes behind his wry humor he is actually serious. When one lies down with dogs, one (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Besides, we all know that Rupert Murdoch is the one in charge anyway. He obviously wanted someone more directly involved in his running of the country. ;) Tim (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Are you really that cynical, or have you merely been dazed by hanging out in the Dunderground too long? You disappoint me, Dave! I like to think of you as being above all of the partisan blather... JOHN (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It will be especially interesting to learn if he still thinks that Bush is an "impotent" "embarrassment," as documented (URL) here>. There's also (URL) this> to consider. On the other hand, it's nice that a member of Fox's Ministry of (...) (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) I happen to like Tony Snow and have heard him a few times filling in on radio talk shows (for Rush maybe?); it will be interesting to see how/if he changes his public persona for his new job. I hope not. JOHN (18 years ago, 26-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) No, that sounds right on the money to me. Here are the statements that we need to consider: A. I believe that God exists. B. I do not believe that God does not exist. C. I believe that God does not exist D. I do not believe that God exists. A (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Trickily worded! I have a lack of belief in Hoojidangs. I bet you do too, because you don't even know what they are. Neither do I. It's some unknown. Hence, I have a lack of belief in them which requires no faith. I'm not sure I'd even call (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) To sum earlier discussion-- Dave! does not believe that the following equations are equal-- 1 + (-1) = 0 (-1) + 1 = 0 ;) Dave K (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Timothy Gould wrote: <snip> Their is one notable flaws of logic in this test. They compare the burden (...) That's the question that hung me up. Dave K (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I got struck with a hit on that one as well: "As long as there are no compelling arguments or evidence that show that God does not exist, atheism is a matter of faith, not rationality." "If, despite years of trying, no strong evidence or (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Would you also argue that the statement "people who believe in God must make a leap of faith" is too broad and non-specific? (...) I would have to say that you are either an agnostic or you have made a leap of faith. It is my opinion that an (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I don't want to start a whole big thing here, but I'd take issue with that statement as being too broad and non-specific. One form of atheism--the belief that God does not exist--may require a leap of faith, but that's not the only form. I, (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Tricky. I had to go back to that class I took back in my Catholic HS days to think through those questions. In the end I scored zero hits and bit twice. Adr. (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Yeah. It's a massively flawed argument IMO. (...) I'm making the point that atheism is as much of a leap of (not)faith as religion is a leap of faith. Thus although I know that agnosticism is logical (as there is nor proof for or against) I (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the parenthetical presumably, Dave! ;-) Fellow 1 bullet biter, JOHN (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree-- I had the same thoughts when I took the Loch Ness "hit". BTW, when you say you are a "devout atheist", what exactly does that mean? Are you asserting that there definitely ISN'T a God somehow? Just wondering, JOHN (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Cute! I "bit one bullet," but otherwise my worldview is pretty consistent, according to this test. Sure it's somewhat flawed, but (presumably) it's not as though St. Peter's standing at the Pearly Gates with this test in hand, waiting to snag (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I agree, the reasoning behind "contradictions" I ran into was from a flawed basis for the questions. (...) (18 years ago, 25-Apr-06, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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