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    Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley
   (...) But you obviously do. I see Larry has responded a couple of times within this thread so I'll assume he's covered how wrong your thinking is here. If not I'll come back, and when I do, please keep in mind that I'm _not_ one of the (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti
   (...) In lugnet.dear-lego, Mike Stanley writes: (...) Sheesh. Even if you were, I still don't care. My hypothetical was about outlet stores and TLC favoring the few when they could favor a greater number of persons. And I really don't resent it. I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) When the facts about how reality works are running against you, and you don't want to admit it, go with ad hominem, eh? As I pointed out in .debate, (1)(2) you're in good company. "slithers", "silverback preening", "virility"? I'm sensing a (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Gary R. Istok
      (...) This is one argument I am not getting involved in. Way too many "ad hominem" attacks against the person. But I will say (in an off handed compliment) that Larry is much nicer in person than in print. :-) I don't think you folks are going to (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz
     (...) Hmm... my brain must be damaged (though a recent MRI came back "normal" - whatever that's supposed to mean), I started off disliking Larry and he talked me into liking him... (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)  
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Frank Filz
     (...) If you're talking about the first time around for these sets in the GA store (as opposed to the 2nd time round, or the stock that the VA store had), I would say there was not an unreasonable distribution of them. By the time I called to order (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Pawel Nazarewicz
     (...) I will vouch for Frank in all matters;) I was on the receiving end of those two 8480s - a deal that he simply passed on to me while he could have made twice as much on e-bay. As cynical of a person as I am about certain people, the lugnet (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
   
        (canceled) —Tom Stangl
    
         Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
      (...) There really isn't any excuse resorting to offensive language. It is a hobby folks, if you're talking it so seriously that you feel the need to throw around insults (yes, I'm referring to everyone now), then maybe, just maybe you should take a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Tom Stangl
       Richard, I really, truly, feel deeply sorry for your sheltered life. Seriously. If you can't take the phrase I used, your life must be filled with hundreds of disappointments a day. I only throw insults when I deem them warranted. And if you read (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
        (...) Please don't feel sorry for me - *I* am perfectly capable of making myself understood without resorting to certain words. Also, please understand that my disappointment is not in the words used (fairly trivial for everyday conversation), but (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
       
            Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Aaron West
         (...) Second that. This is not appropriate for LUGNET. Arguements of this nature belong in other places. This is an abuse of freedom of speech and not what most of us pay membership dues for. Play well, and respect your peers please. Aaron (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Andrew Dowle
       (...) you (...) statement (...) whatsoever. (...) I'm fairly new here, but was under the impression that this is a family site. Whatever context this phrase is used in, whether insulting to an individual or not, it IS offensive, and under the terms (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz
      (...) Um, can I say pot calling the kettle black Richard? Here is a quote from one of your posts: richard marchetti wrote: (...) Now you have said publicly and privately that you don't have a beef with me, and are not indirectly implying anything (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
       (...) ^^^^^^ (...) ^^^...^^^ (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz
       (...) Oops, sorry... This thing has gotten so jumbled, with too many people with the same first name, it's getting tough to keep track of who is saying what. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
        (...) I figured :) Does it matter more who says what, opposed to what is being said? I hope not, but you seemed to ignore the point that I made because you thought Richard Marchetti had said it? Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
       
            Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Frank Filz
        (...) Your point about the languange, no I don't ignore it (go look in lugnet.admin.general). You also do raise a good point that most of this discussion does belong in debate (though there is some bits which do relate to TLC, and there certainly is (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           (canceled) —Mike Poindexter
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gloria Summers
       (...) Oh, Please. ENOUGH! You people are embarrassing yourselves. I have been lurking here for quite a few months. There is a small group of people here who have the capacity to draw out these awful threads backing each other up and perpetuating the (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gary R. Istok
       Sheeeeeese, you guys are riling up the "silent majority" on LUGNET!! Like I said before I ain't gonna take sides. Just put an end to it......... Gloria, I hate to use this forum, but I really want to change the subject. So I welcome you as a (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard W. Schamus
        In lugnet.dear-lego, Gary R. Istok writes: <snip> You don't get this kind of stuff on cable! :-) Good Call Gary (...) I'd love to know as well. (...) Rich -- Have Fun! C-Ya! Legoman34 ***** Legoman34 (Richard W. Schamus)... (No, I don't work for (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Gloria Summers
       (...) So I (...) what is (...) My specialty is collecting anything old and hard to find. That usually means doing most of my finding outside of the US. But I have found some great lots on eBay with old 60's and 70's sets. My collection covers quite (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Wow! Deja vu all over again. I think this is the second big debate where there has been Richard confusion. I think I did it before and I'm STILL sorry it happened. ++Lar (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
       (...) I dunno if you're talking about me, but if so - don't worry about it :) Maybe I should just change my name to Spontificus and be done with it. Although, that is remotely similar to Sproaticus! Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           (canceled) —Mike Poindexter
      
           Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Richard Franks
       (...) *sigh* I have better things to do with my time. I give up. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Perspective (Was:Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!)) —Mike Stanley
      (...) Actually, I think I did it as well. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti
     (...) Its not about missing the deal, or who got what. I have stated this several times. My comments were about TLC policies or lack thereof and giving fans equal access to out of production stock. That's it. If you think this is about some (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Susan Hoover
      (...) How is there any favoritism on the part of S@H? Anyone can call S@H herself at 7 am on Monday if she really wants to know what the specials are before Tom posts them to LUGNET. It probably takes more time to update the site than it does to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) I might have let that one get pretty vague. I was trying to suggest an internet model of business that serves an international customer base equally. I just didn't spell it out. -- Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Within the limitations of the business model (that is, people who choose to live in high tariff/high cost of doing business countries have to, unfortunately, suffer the consequences of their government's attempt to hide from reality) I think (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Peter Callaway
      (...) Richard raises an interesting point, one which I hope the advent of LEGO Direct will adequately address. I've been geeting the irrits reading this particular debate (why hasn't it moved to .off-topic.debate yet?) with you guys complaining (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.off-topic.debate) ! 
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Todd Lehman
       (...) This would be perfectly on-topic for .market.theory, BTW, as long as it's about TLC and how it affects the market and vice-versa. If it gets into more screaming and name-calling and away from LEGO then it's probably better in (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.market.theory)  
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Purely a question of curiosity, what does "geeting the irrits" mean? Is it a OZism? I can guess from context and I ask because it seems a neat phrase. ++Lar (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Peter Callaway
      (...) "Geeting the irrits" roughly translates to "my fingers are getting numb from too much typing and couldn't keep up with my brain, and my brain failed to register the typo". "Getting the irrits", well, I hope that clears it up. Pete Callaway (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Powell
       (...) Note: Larry has every right to buy any set he wants to in any quantity he wants to...if he can get 10,000,000 of a set, wants them and can pay for them, then that is _his_ business. Not yours. So, he happened to take the Nebula Outposts when (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Brown
      (...) So, be constructive (like I'm trying to be... it's yet to see how successful I'll be). How would you suggest LEGO gives fans more equal access to stock, while being able to maintain their bottom line? I'm assuming no one here wants LEGO out of (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Do I have to connect all the lines for you to see the picture? The point of mentioning the Imperial Flagship S@H offer this week is to point out that S@H can and does handle warehouse finds/overstock items RIGHT NOW!!! Why TLC needs outlet (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks
      (...) Pssst.. I think you are being too defensive Richard, James is one of the most fair and level people on LUGNET - if you reread his post, I think you'll see that he was trying to help you by asking for you to explain yourself further. Followups (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.market.theory)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeff Johnston
      (...) S@H has at no time showed any favoritism other than "first come, first served". Why are you bringing them into this? (...) I think you're confusing S@H with the Outlet Stores. They are not the same thing at all. (...) Again, *what* favoritism? (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Interjections —Susan Hoover
       (...) Why is it that I only see this word in newsgroups and email, or on the Scrabble board? I have never actually heard anyone utter this sound. FUT .o-t.fun for lack of a better place. (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
      
           Re: Interjections —Lindsay Frederick Braun
         (...) Is it really an interjection, without an exclamation point? ;) I say "feh" all the time--it's an old Groening-ism from "Life in Hell" for me, c.1983 or so. I don't know where else it comes from, but he had to get it from somewhere. best LFB (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Interjections —Jeremy H. Sproat
       (...) Feh. :-, I'm also prone to saying "oy vey"...as in "A crucifix? Oy vey, have you got the wrong vampire!" Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
      
           Re: Interjections —Susan Hoover
       (...) Doesn't count. It's still in print, not in my ear. Nyah, nyah! ;-P I think Lindsay (and why do I want to call him Leslie?) said it comes from "Life in Hell", which used to be better than it is now. Or maybe I'm thinking of Akbar and Jeff as (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Aren't they both owned by TLC? And no, I am not confusing anything at all. I was suggesting a solution for TLC overstock -- whether it goes to the outlet store or to the S@H service is surely a matter of choice. I am hoping that in the future (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley
      (...) Sometimes, all you have to do is ask nicely and you find that people will make sure you get something you'd like but missed out on. Sometimes you don't even have to ask - they just offer, seeing the need. I've been on both sides of that sort (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Scott Edward Sanburn
       (...) Yes, Indeed. Larry P. offered a straight sale on the Blue Hopper car that came out during our last "discussion" on items, I think this was from that one B store, I can't remember which. Anyway, I have one because of him, and I am grateful. I (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard Franks
       (...) Agreed - I've quoted this post before, but I think it illustrates your point too (URL). Richard (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
      
           Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Scott Edward Sanburn
       Richard, (...) Yes, Busy Bee, I remember that now. Thanks for the link! :) Scott S. ___...___ Scott E. Sanburn-> ssanburn@cleanweb.net Systems Administrator-Affiliated Engineers -> (URL) Page -> (URL) Page -> (URL) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Richard W. Schamus
      (...) Well, how true that is. You know, it's just possible that someone out there might have a Nebula Outpost, (6899) that he got months ago, or even years ago, that has been just collecting dust in their homes, not because it was unwanted, but it (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
     
          Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Erik Olson
      (...) Weird timing. Not too long ago I picked up armfuls of both of these sets on clearance at local stores ($5 for gobs of 6899 & $20 for a half dozen 6078.) I think I have one or two unopened stuffed in the top of the closet... (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley
      (...) Favoritism? Get a clue, pal. I stopped doing the S@H specials a while back because my job changed from being light in the morning to hectic and I couldn't put in the WORK of calling, collecting the data, making all the links, etc by hand (this (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Tom Stangl
      (...) You have GOT to be the #1 jerk of Lugnet for the above comment. I bought ZERO of them. But you know what? I could have bought them all, and you'd have ZERO reason to whine. Why? Because you could have called in, just like me. I live in CA, (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Walsh
      "RICHARD MARCHETTI" <blueofnoon@aol.com> wrote in message news:Fs5CLB.7xG@lugnet.com... [ ... snip ... ] (...) many (...) have (...) I (...) all (...) I have been to the Georgia Outlet store in person once and purchased over the phone twice. There (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Mike Stanley
     (...) Ssssshhhhhhh! Silly facts like that don't work well with the "it isn't fair that the ELITE HAVES take all the Lego sets before we can get to them" conspiracy theory. :) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)  
    
         Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Kevin Loch
     (...) Believe it or not, most of the stuff in the Outlet Stores walks out with non-Lugnet posting customers. The truth is that regular customers prefer the same sets we do for the same reasons. Take 100 regular customers and I bet 100 of them would (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.dear-lego) ! 
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Susan Hoover
   I know this is yesterday's squabble, but I'm just now reading it, and moving my reply to .o-t.d. (...) I don't know Larry, have never met him, but this is not the impression I'm getting of him. The only impression I'm getting from reading this (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —Jeremy H. Sproat
   (...) Agreed. Granted, Larry is -- by his admission -- selfish, profit-driven, and a big spender. But he is most certainly not obnoxious. He is easily amongst the most polite, professional, and generous (1) people I have ever had business with. His (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
   
        Re: Lego Direct (was Re: Georgia LEGO Outlet is Cool!) —James Brown
   (...) Yes. I sometimes (ok, often) find myself across the fence from Larry, because we have some differences of opinion at very fundemental levels. However, he rarely blows his top, is invariably fair (if opinionated), and cannot be remotely accused (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 

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