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Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
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Date: 
Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:33 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes:
> 
> <mostly snipped>
> 
> I agree pretty much with everything Steve wrote here. As I said before, as a
> USER I'd rather have a multiattribute shape/connectivity based system rather
> than "pirate hull" and "destroyer droid" based names.

Thanks for the support.

Except for the sailing ship hulls, I feel it will be better (ie, better
for users) to go with the intuitive name.  "Boat Bow X x Y x Z", "Boat
Stern X x Y x Z".[1]  Possibly with a modifier somewhere, to indicate
that these are the SPUD hulls, not brick- or plate-style.

> > But here's an example of a usage-based name that's un-useful: "Train
> > Catenary Holder".  People have asked time and time again where to find
> > this part, when they're modeling their space robots, or dragons, or Town
> > creation.
> 
> Your example is wrong! If it were "Catenary" maybe I'd have a prayer of
> finding it (because I know Trains better than some) but it isn't.

So sorry.  I was too lazy to make sure I was using the right(wrong)
speeling. :\

> It's "CaNtenary" (which is spelled wrong), or at least it was, and that has
> gotten propagated into many other places, so even if I *knew* the incorrect
> association (this part is a PANTOGRAPH SHOE not a catenary holder... A
> catenary holder would be a thing that bolts onto poles and holds the power
> wire (that is, it holds catenary), not a thing mounted on trains that
> contacts wires, for goodness sake!) I *still* might not find it.

I was using this part: <http://guide.lugnet.com/parts/search.cgi?q=2880>
for the example.  This part gets used in a wide variety of contexts, in
Train, Town, and Space.  Hence my comment about "robot claws" (see
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6889>).

From your description, you were talking about
<http://guide.lugnet.com/parts/search.cgi?q=2881>.  Which suffers from
similiar name-challenges, but is a much less common part.

> So please don't go with theme based names or even worse set based names.
> This CAD user implores those arguing against logical names to reconsider
> their position. That way lies madness.

I will generally go for attribute/geometric names, except when that
approach gives much worse results than usage/theme/intuitive names.

And parts authors are encouraged to make extensive use of KEYWORDS
entries, to help people when they are searching for parts.

--
Steve

1)  I realize these are *ship* parts, but we've already got the Boat
thing going.



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(...) Urp. um yes... but then the proper name of this part is "Pantograph Shoe Holder" if one uses a trainish naming... as what it holds is pantograph shoes (...) and this part would be "Pantograph Shoe" But of course a much better name for this is (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes: <mostly snipped> I agree pretty much with everything Steve wrote here. As I said before, as a USER I'd rather have a multiattribute shape/connectivity based system rather than "pirate hull" and (...) (25 years ago, 11-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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