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Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
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Fri, 11 Jan 2002 14:24:33 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes:

<mostly snipped>

I agree pretty much with everything Steve wrote here. As I said before, as a
USER I'd rather have a multiattribute shape/connectivity based system rather
than "pirate hull" and "destroyer droid" based names.

Thanks for the support.

Except for the sailing ship hulls, I feel it will be better (ie, better
for users) to go with the intuitive name.  "Boat Bow X x Y x Z", "Boat
Stern X x Y x Z".[1]  Possibly with a modifier somewhere, to indicate
that these are the SPUD hulls, not brick- or plate-style.

But here's an example of a usage-based name that's un-useful: "Train
Catenary Holder".  People have asked time and time again where to find
this part, when they're modeling their space robots, or dragons, or Town
creation.

Your example is wrong! If it were "Catenary" maybe I'd have a prayer of
finding it (because I know Trains better than some) but it isn't.

So sorry.  I was too lazy to make sure I was using the right(wrong)
speeling. :\

It's "CaNtenary" (which is spelled wrong), or at least it was, and that has
gotten propagated into many other places, so even if I *knew* the incorrect
association (this part is a PANTOGRAPH SHOE not a catenary holder... A
catenary holder would be a thing that bolts onto poles and holds the power
wire (that is, it holds catenary), not a thing mounted on trains that
contacts wires, for goodness sake!) I *still* might not find it.

I was using this part: <http://guide.lugnet.com/parts/search.cgi?q=2880>
for the example.  This part gets used in a wide variety of contexts, in
Train, Town, and Space.  Hence my comment about "robot claws" (see
<http://guide.lugnet.com/set/6889>).

From your description, you were talking about
<http://guide.lugnet.com/parts/search.cgi?q=2881>.  Which suffers from
similiar name-challenges, but is a much less common part.

So please don't go with theme based names or even worse set based names.
This CAD user implores those arguing against logical names to reconsider
their position. That way lies madness.

I will generally go for attribute/geometric names, except when that
approach gives much worse results than usage/theme/intuitive names.

And parts authors are encouraged to make extensive use of KEYWORDS
entries, to help people when they are searching for parts.

--
Steve

1)  I realize these are *ship* parts, but we've already got the Boat
thing going.



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(...) Urp. um yes... but then the proper name of this part is "Pantograph Shoe Holder" if one uses a trainish naming... as what it holds is pantograph shoes (...) and this part would be "Pantograph Shoe" But of course a much better name for this is (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes: <mostly snipped> I agree pretty much with everything Steve wrote here. As I said before, as a USER I'd rather have a multiattribute shape/connectivity based system rather than "pirate hull" and (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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