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Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
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Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:47:27 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Fredrik Glöckner wrote:
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> > Steve Bliss <partsref@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Fredrik Glöckner wrote:
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> > > I'm with you all the way here. But let me take it one step further:
> > > as you noted, "beam" is a common term for Technic bricks. So, this
> > > new category could also include the Technic brick parts. Then, all
> > > technic bricks, liftarms, and half- and full-width smooth beams would
> > > be in one place, with a nice generic label of "Beam".
> >
> > While this idea would unify many elements, I don't think it's a good
> > one. After all, the technic bricks with holes or axleholes (or pins!)
> > are still bricks.
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> Yes, they are bricks, but they are commonly called 'beams'.
I'd have no hassle calling them bricks, but they need to be called "brick
with holes" or "brick, technic" or "technic brick" to distinguish them from
hole-less bricks. Should it be a separate category? I lean towards yes,
because there's quite a few of them (and would include open centre bricks
below), but I could be swayed either way.
> > And to make things even more difficult, there are
> > many hybrid elements, which cannot easily be categorized as bricks or
> > beams. For example the new rectangular/quadratic elements introduced
> > lately. I would say that a "beam" is mostly a straight or partwise
> > straight element. Could a 4x4 brick with a 2x2 hole in the centre cut
> > out be called a beam? Even if it does have some technic holes along the
> > sides?
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> Good point. I don't see the open center bricks being called beams.
Agreed.
> > Or what about a 1x1 brick with one single hole and one stud?
> > That can't be a beam, can it?
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> If that was the only anomolous part, I'd be willing to label it a beam.
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> I yield to your superior counter examples! ;) Forget I mentioned a "Technic
> Beam" category.
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> > I think we need one category for studded technic elements ("technic
> > bricks, technic plates") and one for the non-studded elements.
>
> I don't think that would work out -- I can't see the logic in putting bricks and
> plates into a single category, separate from other Technic elements. Even
> calling it "Studded Elements" wouldn't be accurate, unless we included other
> studded parts, like gearboxes.
The studless beams wouldn't really fit in the "brick" category I dont think.
Maybe *these* could be called beams? Or does the description need to make it
obvious there's no studs?
> > The name
> > "liftarm" is a bit bad, as it doesn't fully describe all the non-studded
> > elements. However, until we can come up with a better name, I think the
> > current categories are quite good.
>
> After going through all this, I'm tending to agree.
>
> > What about the original question, then? Do we want
> >
> > 2637 Technic Axle 16 with Axleholes
> > 2739 Technic Axle 6 with Ball Joint Sockets
> >
> > or
> >
> > 2637 Technic Rod 16L
> > 2739 Technic Rod 6L Steering
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> I'm not keen on 'rod', that sounds like a mechanism for pushing. These parts
> are *generally* better for tension than compression.
>
> Maybe this is an Americanization, but how about 'tie-rod'? That is (basically)
> a synonym for 'link', and includes the word 'rod'. And also connotes the usage
> in steering assemblies, which 2739 was initially used for.
So how about "link"?
Are there enough to make a link category? (I'm thinking no, but just
throwing around the ideas...)
ie
2637.DAT Link 16L with Holes
2739.DAT Link 6L Steering with Towball Sockets
or
2637.DAT Technic Link 16L with Holes
2739.DAT Technic Link 6L Steering with Towball Sockets
> How about:
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> 2637.DAT Technic Tie-Rod 16L with Holes
> 2739.DAT Technic Tie-Rod 6L Steering with Towball Sockets
>
> Another problem is the i-beam parts come from Freestyle, not Technic...
ROSCO
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