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Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
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Date: 
Sat, 5 Jan 2002 16:45:07 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Steve Bliss writes:
In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Fredrik Glöckner wrote:

My personal opinion is that the liftarm category in LDraw is way too
wide.

I agree with that.

I'm not quite sure myself what a "liftarm" actually is in the
English language.

After thorough research (I googled 'liftarm', and found mostly legofan
sites), I've come to the conclusion that 'liftarm' was made up by
somebody, and is only used to describe Lego elements.  I'm guessing that
either (a) it's a literal translation from a Danish term or (b) James
Jessiman coined the word.

It comes from this:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/?q=liftarm

Starting from the 1x4 and 1x3 versions, the term expanded.

I've been using the term almost as long as James did, if not longer,
because of those set names.

It IS a term that came from TLG (TLC), but not necessarily from
the designer level, it might be marketing.

If so, the parts I suggest
to rename could be called

   2637 Technic Liftarm 16L with Axleholes
   2739 Technic Liftarm  6L with Ball Joint Sockets

I've long given up on arguing for any of this too strongly,
but 2739 is a steering throw-rod, no doubt about it.  To move
it into liftarm or axle status is not the way to go, IMHO.

2739 was created (well, released) in 1988 as part of a very
specific series of steering parts, and has that specific function
that it was designed for.  It can be used in many other ways,
but that's really its purpose.

2736 Ball-hitch with axle
2737 Technic steering arm, 2 ball hitches
2738 Technic steering a-frame
2739 Technic #6 tie-rod, end ball-hitches (female)

No, I don't think that would be the way to go.

But back to the liftarm category.  In my opinion, it is wrong to put
the halfbeams into this category.  The halfbeams are smooth beams with
rounded ends and no studs and with a half stud width.  I think we need
a new category to catch these elements, as well as the fairly new full
width smooth beams with rounded ends.

Agreed, both on the half-width and full-width beams should be something
other than "liftarm".

The problem was the third element in the list of parts packs I
mentioned: a 1x3 rounded "half beam".  TLG started it.

     -- joshua



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) IMHO we should try to describe parts as genericly (sp?) as possible regardless of the obvious or how LEGO has used it in any particular set(s). There's always some imaginative builder who can use a part in a way nobody thought of before. Let's (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) Thanks for clearing this up, Joshua. (...) How about the other suggestions made by Fredrik and me? ('... and myself'? I never was good at grammar) (...) What about the full-width beams with cross-axle holes in the ends? Are those liftarms or (...) (22 years ago, 7-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) I agree with that. (...) After thorough research (I googled 'liftarm', and found mostly legofan sites), I've come to the conclusion that 'liftarm' was made up by somebody, and is only used to describe Lego elements. I'm guessing that either (...) (22 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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