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Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
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Date: 
Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:56:35 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Fredrik Glöckner wrote:

My personal opinion is that the liftarm category in LDraw is way too
wide.

I agree with that.

I'm not quite sure myself what a "liftarm" actually is in the
English language.

After thorough research (I googled 'liftarm', and found mostly legofan
sites), I've come to the conclusion that 'liftarm' was made up by
somebody, and is only used to describe Lego elements.  I'm guessing that
either (a) it's a literal translation from a Danish term or (b) James
Jessiman coined the word.

But my understanding from LEGO is that a liftarm is
a rod or a beam with a cross axle hole in the end(s).  That way, the
liftarm can be used to transform a rotating motion into a "lifting"
force.  E.g., a rotating axle with a "liftarm" connected can be used
to lift something.

That was the way I understood it.

But this understanding may very well be wrong.  Perhaps the word
"liftarm" is simply synonymous with "rod"?

I wouldn't think so.

If so, the parts I suggest
to rename could be called

   2637 Technic Liftarm 16L with Axleholes
   2739 Technic Liftarm  6L with Ball Joint Sockets

No, I don't think that would be the way to go.

But back to the liftarm category.  In my opinion, it is wrong to put
the halfbeams into this category.  The halfbeams are smooth beams with
rounded ends and no studs and with a half stud width.  I think we need
a new category to catch these elements, as well as the fairly new full
width smooth beams with rounded ends.

Agreed, both on the half-width and full-width beams should be something
other than "liftarm".

I don't know, however, what this new category should be called.
"Beam" should not be used, since Technic Bricks are beams, as well.

That is a problem.  But keep reading...

But if indeed we come up with a new category for these elements, it
would be natural to put the 3x5 full width beam with one 90 degree
bend into it.  And then, it would be natural to fill in with the other
full width smooth bended beams with cross axle holes in the ends, and
finally the half width beams and, liftarms.  Now, some of these
elements are indeed liftarms according to my understanding.  So in the
end, they all end up in the same category anyway!  Hence, perhaps it
is best to retain the current situation after all, and call all the
elements "liftarms"!

I'm with you all the way here.  But let me take it one step further: as
you noted, "beam" is a common term for Technic bricks.  So, this new
category could also include the Technic brick parts.  Then, all technic
bricks, liftarms, and half- and full-width smooth beams would be in one
place, with a nice generic label of "Beam".

Steve



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) Great, I was mostly just testing the grounds. I wouldn't actually vote for a solution like this. (...) While this idea would unify many elements, I don't think it's a good one. After all, the technic bricks with holes or axleholes (or pins!) (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) It comes from this: (URL) from the 1x4 and 1x3 versions, the term expanded. I've been using the term almost as long as James did, if not longer, because of those set names. It IS a term that came from TLG (TLC), but not necessarily from the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) The term "liftarm" is the official Lego US Consumer Affairs name. It is derived from the official Danish part name. The term has been used widely in Lego advertising, particularly in the names of supplemental or parts packs, particularly in (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Proposal: New Parts Category for round parts
 
(...) My personal opinion is that the liftarm category in LDraw is way too wide. I'm not quite sure myself what a "liftarm" actually is in the English language. But my understanding from LEGO is that a liftarm is a rod or a beam with a cross axle (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jan-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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