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Re: Ldraw.organization (was: License revision 1)
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Date: 
Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:12:49 GMT
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"Leonardo Zide" <leonardo@centroin.com.br> wrote in message
news:3A3E8A88.A941C257@centroin.com.br...

  I agree with that because currently ldraw.org is working as l-cad.org,
but l-cad.org will have to focus on other stuff as well.

Yeah.  I like the idea of another site, but I'm still strongly listening to the
people who say to keep it at LDraw.org.  Its good to have the name and I think
that I'll wait a week until I've talked with Steve more about stuff before
deciding to leap into another site.  I just got through with a meeting with Todd
after the NELUG meet which has gotten my head spinning a bit more - so more
ideas that I want to organize, etc.  Basically, we need to map stuff out and not
jump at it for now - get a solid plan of where LCAD is going before deciding on
making another site, etc.

  I think it would be better to have the FAQ split, there should be a
smaller FAQ with only questions that general users ask (how can I save a
.bmp ?) and another with more advanced questions (how to make a type 5
line ?). A very long FAQ scares people away.

I agree.

  So what resources do we have right now ? Does anyone have a web server
that allows perl scripts (or any other form of scripts/database) ?

*I think* LDraw.org will allow it - you'll have to run your code through Jacob
first though.

  I've been a bit busy at work but soon I won't have much to do and I'll
be able to help more. I'll be free until the end of january when I'll
(probably) move.

Cool!

  I've been thinking about making individual files available and I think
that having a cvs server would fit all of our needs. If you don't know
what cvs is, it's a version control system used very much under Linux
but it also has a nice GUI for win32 users (www.wincvs.org). All you
have to do is type "cvs update" and it will update your local copy from
a remote repository.

Good idea.  So, if such a system was implimented, we could do away with parts
pack updates and go to individual synchronization and a 'continuously updating'
parts library as individual parts become approved.

  No problem, today I uploaded a new version so you might want to
download it. Don't forget to take a look at the new minifig wizard. :)

I'll get it, but won't get a chance to play with it until I arrive in Chicago on
Wed.  I should download while I still have a broadband connection :-\

  I'd like to see something like that happening too but all times we
tried to add new standards it was too confusing (remember the long BFC
threads). Having a completely new format will be 100 times more
difficult.

Yeah...but it would still be beneficial.  I don't see it happening within a year
though, seeing the rate of growth we're at and all - there's no real active push
for a new format.

  You mentioned the educational sector: I started the license thread
bacause I wanted to have LeoCAD include in Debian-Jr, that's a Linux
distribution aimed at children.

Cool :-)

  Out of curiosity, do you also receive email from CS students having to
write a CAD program ? I get one of those every once in a while. :)

Nope.... probably because I'm not a programmer myself.  If I wrote one of the
cad programs that would increase the likelihood of me getting that email.  I get
email for help on all sorts of stuff though, a few a week.

As far as an organization goes - whether we are going to stick with • something
like 'LDraw.org Committee/Group/etc.' or go to 'LCAD Committee/etc' should • be
decided.  If a 'formal' or 'official' organization is to be formed, it • should
be, and from there strategy should be developed for the future of LCAD. • Within
that strategy may or may not include a new LCAD website to replace the name
'LDraw.org' as the official site.

  I think the first step should then be ask who wants to participate in
such group and start working. We can continue discussing here or move it
somewhere else (I saw the XP to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, is the
discussion moving there ? I'm not subscribed).

I copied the discussion there because it has to do with the LDraw.org
site/organization.  It should be xposted to both groups, IMO.

  The first thing we could decide is about the new parts tracker and how
to integrate it with the voting procedure.

Steve posted today about that.  Good starting point.

LCAD should never eject the name LDraw, but the name 'LDraw' itself does not
include all of LCAD by nature.  Its true as has been noted that LDraw proper • is
archaic and fast being replaced by new software, and LCAD as a [loose]
organization needs to face that.

  I agree completely, the first advanced LCAD program was LDraw and we
should always respect it but we need to know when to move to a more
advanced program. Whatever we do, we should have a "history of LCAD"
page with a good explanation of how it all started.

Yes.  IMO, LDraw should always be there, available, etc, but as things develop
the community will eventually move away from its everyday use completely.  Its a
fact of life.

We're on the right track here, I believe.
--

Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com

http://www.ldraw.org - Centralized LDraw Resources
http://www.zacktron.com - Zacktron Alliance

ICQ: 23951114 - AIM: TimCourtne



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  Re: Ldraw.organization (was: License revision 1)
 
(...) Looks like Steve is already working on it... (...) Yes, but we should still make full updates available for people who don't want the latest version. I'll start writing an update download program, looks like it's the only thing left to do. (...) (24 years ago, 19-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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  Re: Ldraw.organization (was: License revision 1)
 
(...) I agree with that because currently ldraw.org is working as l-cad.org, but l-cad.org will have to focus on other stuff as well. (...) I think it would be better to have the FAQ split, there should be a smaller FAQ with only questions that (...) (24 years ago, 18-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)

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