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Re: License revision 1
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Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:55:07 GMT
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"Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@home.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to not have different terms for commercial and non-commercial
> applications.  I don't see a valid reason for discriminating on the basis
> of cost.

Agreed.

> My thinking is this:  most LCAD'ish things are available in a free program.
> In order for someone charge for their program, and be successful at it,
> their software must have significant value above the zero-price
> alternatives.  If the value isn't there, no one will buy their program, and
> it will go away (either literally or figuratively).  If the value is there,
> it's also likely that someone else will eventually duplicate the
> value-adding feature, and start giving it away.

Good point - up until recently I have been against LCAD derivative software for
sale, but some of the points made here has changed my opinion.  Still, I trust
the decision making process here to do the best for LCAD.

> >  5. If the library or parts of it are converted to another format then
> >     the source code of the program used to convert the library must
> > also
> >     be made available.
> 
> I disagree with #5 completely.

Why?  (Not disagreeing with you, just asking).  But in this case, if TLC were to
make a converter to one of their formats, this would severely restrict them.
That's one reason against this line, if I'm understanding it correctly.  I
suppose that I don't like this line either.

BTW - this license should make it as easy as possible for TLC to adopt the use
of the DAT file format to whatever extent.  I do not personally believe they
will ever use the library of parts created, but it should be easy for them to
generate a program which converts DAT and market it or make it available should
they choose to do so.

> I disagree with this as well.  I think such communication should be
> directed to the semi-mythical ldraw.org.

Which leads us to try to define the semi-mythical ldraw.org again :-)  Its a bit
tricky, but any suggestions?  Will there be a leadership heirarchy, or a panel
of contributors (which is an odd number) to govern LCAD?  I think that this
should be defined if this license is to go into effect.

> > [INSERT LIST OF CONTRIBUTORS (authors + maintainers)]
> 
> Change this to:
> 
> . Contributors:
> .   James Jessiman
> .   Tore Eriksson
> .   Terry Keller
> .   Tim Courtney
> .   Authors are listed in the part files they contributed to.
> 
> I'd rather not rev the license document every time we get a new author.

Good idea.  Steve, you should put yourself in there as well, IMO.
--

Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com

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(...) For points made previously in the thread, I think. Basically, I think if our aim is to free users/distributors/developers to use the library however they want, forcing them to release source code is a *big* contradiction of the aim of the (...) (26 years ago, 14-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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(...) I like where you're going, mostly. (...) I'd like to not have different terms for commercial and non-commercial applications. I don't see a valid reason for discriminating on the basis of cost. My thinking is this: most LCAD'ish things are (...) (26 years ago, 13-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)

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