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How do you see this information being used? -John Van Steve Bliss wrote in message ... (...) renamed (...) Update (...) is (...) never (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) aliases... yes, I use that. or do you mean something else still? (...) Of course, I set _my_ sendmail up not to forward stuff. I dunno why I did that, but that's the default that came in the smtp .cf file and procmail is too much memory to (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Apache, or something commercial? I just hadn't thought of that. Teach me to speak on things I haven't tried to set up for myself yet :-/ Jasper (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi there, I'm a 25 year old Technic Lego-player, but less fanatic with internet and news- groups, so I discovered LDraw just some weeks ago. It works rather well and I'm really enthousistic about it. If I want to help with making new pieces (Technic (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sorry! -- I'm humor-impaired sometimes without the aid of smileys. Anyway, it seemed like a legitimate/logical suggestion to me, at least in terms of the bottom line -- a low-bandwidth information-dispersal venue for updates. (...) No, all (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You're a brave man. ;) (...) I think you've gotten a taste of how the community feels. This has come up before, with some half-height plates (I think these were Tyco parts, maybe MegaBloks did them, too). They were not allowed into a parts (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Preach it, brother! (...) :) Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 New Lugnet Newsgroup? lugnet.off-topic.tim...ie.die.die ?? LEGO: SP++++c(6973)[ip++++ bt2++++ ex+++ ft+++ sp+++ ut++] AQ+++(6175)[an+++ as++ hn-- sr--] (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I considered modeling some K'Nex pieces in LDraw. There aren't that many different (useful) K'Nex pieces. But then I realized that the sizes would be all wrong for the movement keystrokes in LEdit. So I gave it up. Steve (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right, without permission we can neither modify nor distribute these files. But even with permission, an ARJ-based install should be available. (...) Good point. (...) I disagree with this. Many people (maybe not many people into virtual LEGO, (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Todd, it was a joke. We just moved in here, right? (...) That's an interesting idea. Can people subscribe via e-mail without visiting the web-pages (even if it means they can't post?) (...) But that's because most robotics-heads are subscribed (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sorry, but hugin.risoe.dk is actually sys-323.risoe.dk (until last week it was another machine with another name). Hugin is just an alias. The HTTP daemon (aka "web server") I use can handle separate names as separate virtual servers. Play (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) No. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@risoe.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- LDraw FAQ: <URL:(URL) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) On Unix machines, yes, basically. Although sendmail won't automatically generate email from scratch, if you pass it a valid SMTP document, it will fill in various headers and make sure the mail gets to its destination one way or another (or (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) This isn't correct. The lugnet.com machine and the Apache software it's running can answer to anything that they're configured to answer to, without impacting performance. Currently, there is a mapping at pair.com (ISP) which associates (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sendmail is actually the SMTP daemon, the program that accepts email messages being thrown at a certain machine (after which youi can retrieve them from that machine with pop3d) . My sendmail is working perfectly, tho. janssen.dynip.com is my (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, the point isd that hugin.etc thinks it's name isn't ldraw.org, but hugin.etc.. Then it returns that to the user. There are special services available with some domain-registry-services, that give you another layer in between which will (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, sure. All parts that go into the updates go through a peer review process, then the collection is assembled by Terry for distribution. Even assuming the non-Lego parts survive the voting, all that would be needed is policy on Terry's end (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I am totally opposed to this. LDraw was started to model Lego elements and that is what we have adhered to. And as long as I have the watch, so to speak, I will not knowingly allow fictitious parts into an official update. I even have some (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) This tactic of registration, just by its intrusive nature, is evil. Not to mention, riddled with about a *ton* of technical details that really shouldn't need to be worked out. LDraw is in a continual state of growth. If anyone *really* wants (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It is my understanding that that is how it works. When you type "www.lugnet.com", that request is processed by a name server, which links that name to the proper address, the 204.302.23 stuff. But all you see is lugnet.com So if memorial on (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Is there a way (or rules) to prevent non-TLG parts from creeping into the official LDraw updates? That seems like the only practical/logical danger...any other objections (like mine) would be personal/subjective. I don't use LDraw/LEdit enough (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Short term, set up a group for discussion. Long term -- integrate the sites together in crucial areas, like the setup of tlg models newsgroups and then automatically generating dat files that correspond with the posts.. similar to online (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Funny story, and nice to remember him by. I am sad that I didn't get to know him well, and only exchanged a few emails. From what I hear, he was a great guy. I'm sorry, Larry, everyone.. Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) :) Um, I didn't know there was a thing out there for MOC bricks.. interesting... (...) Yep, I don't mean any offense either, and I agree with you Todd. (...) Another good idea.. group, lets keep the creative juices flowing.. Ldraw Consortium? (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think it would be great -- I don't know of any existing restrictions other than the possibility that no one has published their efforts in this regard. I would be more receptive to other brand-name parts than to mangled pieces, however -- (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) So would I (personally). (...) Me too. In fact, I would take a stronger position against clone bricks than against purely-MOC bricks. This isn't to suggest that every official TLG element is a fragrant flower, but IMHO all clone elements are (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The ml isn't currently gatewayed with the ng. A gateway could always be established, however, if the need arose. (...) It is (or at least was a few minutes ago) when you sent out your other message. --Todd (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You did a good job of it, though I don't think you'll like the replies from people (personal prediction). (...) I would personally severely disapprove. Though it could be argued to include clone bricks (which your described part would fall (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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We're not gatewayed, right? That is, I got a message from L-CAD@LISTSERV.UH.EDU that I replied to and I went to the people still subscribed to the list, but it did not appear here. That's what I expected would happen if we weren't gatewayed. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I'm not sure how the best way to broach this subject, but to jump head first best. First, I have wondered how the community feels about the creation of non-standard parts. By this I mean parts that TLG has not created ( at least not to my knowledge (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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But can we set the l.c.d for a Digest? I preferred the LCAD list in Digest form, this Live Feed is driving me nuts. I already get 100+ emails/day at home, and 3-900/day at work. (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) have (...) Would this be visible to a visitor accessing ldraw.org? It would be very nice if the URL in the text box on a browser stayed at ldraw.org instead of making the visitor think thye had the wrong address. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) For the site discussion, I think a temporary (or permanent if you desire) group name would be most appropriately: lugnet.cad.dev.site, denoting the site for the .dev group.. (...) Whoa! If I had $$ I would probably use that group too.. Keep (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I like the idea of a short-term newsgrouping experiment, but since the discussions would be centered around a permanently evolving resource, maybe the experiment would work better with a transient resource, project, or event instead. In other (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If a separate mailing list were set up for update notifications, then everything would have to be posted to two places (there and here). Another possibility: Simply create .cad.announce or .cad.updates for this purpose. That way anyone could (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Um, then pair.com is a better choice than Osiris. Mike-friendly modeler.. what's wrong with Ldraw? :) (...) Good ideas.. A model competition isn't a bad idea, with a set as a prize or credit in Auczilla..something like that (the $$ for the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Probably good, so we can weed out general ldraw discussion from site discussion. I see the Re: proposal.. thread has been chopped up into the set/piece discussion too..that would help on that as well. lugnet.cad.dev.site? Keep Building!! -Tim (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) My final version shouldn't take more than that because the bulk of that is program downloads. The website shouldn't be more than 500k at the most.. sites are small.. Maybe to be safe we can be allotted 15mb? Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yeah, or major subidrectories. They can be put into: /download/ /gettingstarted (too long/cumbersome?) /tlg/ /links/ /contribute/ /credits/ /memorial/ (...) Probably. (...) Oops <blush> Thanks for the reminder, we can't forget who got us (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi, one of the lurkers here. Todd, is there any form of digest mode for any of the newsgroups? If not, is there one in the planning stages? If so, I would be one to use it, since i do all my mailing lists that way. -Doug G (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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[Followups set to lugnet.admin.general] Whoops -- my apologies if you have received a few double-mailings (if you're subscribed to groups via e-mail). The news-by-mail gateway is set up as a cron job activated every 5 minutes. It wasn't checking (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It was my understanding that 'ldraw.org' would be registered with at least two "name servers". So anyone trying to access ldraw.org would have that request resolved to the correct IP address - which would be the hugin server. (I hope I (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Would it be a good idea to create a temporary ng just for discussion, communication, and coordination on the JJM/L-CAD site rework? It probably isn't all that necessary, but it would be an interesting experiment in short- term newsgrouping. Steve (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I'm not sure this idea has merit, it might be viewed as unnecessary or overkill. It'd definitely be one more detail to deal with in parts updates. Should we start adding maintenance comments when parts are renumbered, renamed or corrected? These (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If you want to do them all at once, you may want to wait until after the content has been decided and worked on and we've got a fairly stable new site. That's probably more productive than doing image-links first. (...) I'm not sure I'm on the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It was my understanding that 'ldraw.org' would be registered with at least two "name servers". So anyone trying to access ldraw.org would have that request resolved to the correct IP address - which would be the hugin server. (I hope I (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd agree with you, except that TLG ships composite elements which also come apart, such as minifig torso/arms/hands/head assemblies (not that I think L- CAD is going to start releasing shortcut files like those particular TLG elements). I (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I need to know what areas of this site people will be expecting in the future or can possibly anticipate so I can make all the image links at one time if possible. This is because its a heck of a lot easier than going back and doing a new one like (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Just for reference, pair gives 40mb and an unlimited number of potential e-mail accounts, although only one is an actual pop-type account. But by using procmail or something similar you could have webmaster@ldraw.org forwarded to bob@home.com (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Exactly. The subject line matters more to people getting the messages by e- mail than it does to people using a newsreader. I'm not sure about people using the web interface, because some pages are threaded and some aren't. So I guess web-users (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Those of use who choose to use email (or can't get newsgroup access) would appreciate having useful headers. It also makes it easier to follow messages that have been saved away due to useful content. --- Dave Hylands Email: DHylands@creo.com 3700 (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Maybe John means on output (writing/sending) more than on input (reading)... At least that's how I'd interpret the suggestion...It's certainly OK to change the Subject line on a whim when the topic of the thread changes direction. Makes later (...) (26 years ago, 10-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I believe Osiris (my provider) is slightly cheaper. Well, that depends on how much space pair.com gives with its $6/mo accounts. Osiris gives 15mb for $5.00/month and one email address (additional $10/yr or something like that). Anyways, it (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's the thing that automatically sends email to an address like from a form or something on a site, right? (...) Ok.. I think there should be addresses such as: webmaster@ldraw.org info@ldraw.org help@ldraw.org ..and possibly.. (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Really? I figured the subject line matters less here, because everything is threaded... Steve (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Todd, I have the same problem. I signed up for L-CAD with e-mail john_vanzwieten@msn.com, but since then outgoing messages are sent with john_vanzwieten@email.msn.com. Would you unsubscribe me. The server would also not accept a message from me, (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hey, folks. Now that we're a newsgroup, we should pay more attention to the subject line. (...) I tried to send an extended post on this subject, but I'm not sure where it went. It was basically along the same lines as Steve, though. I would only (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Help Todd, Could you unsubscribe me from the dev mailling list? I went to the web page, registered and planned on unsubscribing myself, but apparently the dev mailing list is not using paul@gyugyi.com. If I don't hear from you in the next day, I'll (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) It w/could be classified as a sub-model. At least, that's how I'd classify it. (...) A line can certainly be drawn. Elements are what's in (or destined to be in) the ldraw\parts directory. Anything else is not a part. Usually, the only files (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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What's the current infrastructure/linkage between L-CAD@LISTSERV.UH.EDU and lugnet.cad.dev? Is everybody now subscribed to both lists? Is there any gatewaying going on? I don't have any preference here--the current situation is a transitional state (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The Reply button/keystroke should reply to the poster only -- that's how newsreaders work and that's how mailing lists are supposed to work. To reply to the group instead of the poster only, simply use the Reply-All function instead of Reply. (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) (Guess posting from e-mail isn't going to work without a lot of effort on my part since it isn't being passed with reply-to's set to the group. Oh well, I can still archive posts.) Unless, of course, Jacob didn't host it and we needed to get (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Tim: (...) At the moment I can't even get sendmail to work. :-( But if I get sendmail to run, and if I can get an OK from my network administrator, then the answer is yes. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@risoe.dk -- -- Web...: (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) How would you classify a Blacktron I prisoner pod? The exactly same sub- assembly is used 6 times in 5 different sets. It's not really set-specific, but it's certainly not a part, right? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just wanna understand: (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) You're not going to beguile me with your fuzzy-logic thinking here, mister! ;) If you crank the zoom up high enough, every line is blurry. In this case, my feeling is the line is pretty clear. It's almost always obvious whether an assembly of (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Terry Keller: (...) I don't think it would be possible to have ldraw.org point to my server, but I could have a word with our network administrator. Jacob PS: There are only 2.7 Gb free on hugin (and I need a bit of it for my work). ---...--- -- (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I would suggest if you're going to be collecting that you ask people how much they are donating and tally it up so you don't get over the amount.. My $.02. Keep Building!! -Tim <>< (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 Lego Insults: Your mother was a (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yep. If it boils down to it, I am willing to handle the fees, as long as I know for sure who is sending what first so I don't get over-donated to. :) I want exactly $70 and we can worry about $35 in 2 years.. 1) its not as much $$ and 2) in 2 (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thought provoking.. (...) That poses a problem. (...) Would an inlined model or an mpd posted to the group help?? I know people would have to download an mpd to run it through file splitter, and I'm not sure exactly what an inlined model is, (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ok, lemme try again from a different angle... The distiction I meant was that a distinction is hard to make. That is, if there were an area for "sets" and an area for "elements," it's hard to draw the line (in a few special cases, but not in (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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LDraw FAQ 0) About this FAQ The questions and answers in this FAQ is mainly summaries of communication in the discussion group lugnet.cad.dev. 0a) Table of contents * 0) About this FAQ: + a) Table of contents + b) Locations of the FAQ + c) Useful (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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[Followups set to lugnet.cad.dev] -- A new newsgroup lugnet.cad.dev has just been created for developers of LEGO- style CAD systems and components. Here is the charter: lugnet.cad.dev (group): CAD developers forum: in-depth technical discussions, (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.announce)
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TERMS OF USE FOR LUGNET.COM OVERVIEW AND DEFINITIONS lugnet.com ("LUGNET") is a privately owned Internet site designed and run primarily for the benefit of those who enjoy building with, discussing, collecting, buying & selling, trading, and (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Welcome to lugnet.cad.dev, a LUGNET discussion group. CHARTER/PURPOSE: lugnet.cad.dev (group): CAD developers forum: in-depth technical discussions, software architecture, interoperability, tools, parts planning & tracking, standards, etc. (Formerly (...) (26 years ago, 9-Feb-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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