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(...) hi guys, sorry for the late reply ... I'm abroad until next week and unfortunately I lack a proper connection to the net. anyway ... I started distributing the first parts. please mail me directly if you wanna have parts for the file (...) (17 years ago, 29-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) I wanted to thank the LSC for their hard work on this topic. Good job bringing it to fruition. Kevin (Charter Member of the LSC) (17 years ago, 29-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes. That will go into the new "-y is up" section. I'm open to suggestions on the exact wording on this section, but I suspect that we can copy from the authors' guide document, which I believe already describes this. --Travis (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Also important is the fact that LDraw's model world is in a right-handed coordinate system. The current draft doesn't mention this. Steve (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Travis, I'm quite satisfied with your dual format explanation. It is simple and concise. Kevin (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Travis, I have *had to add* support for blanks in LPub, because so many kids expect to be able to use them. Unfortunatly, kids won't read the spec, they will just do what comes naturally. I'm an old goat, so I'm personally not a fan of blanks (...) (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) I agree, and believe that both my proposed "sample matrices" as well as Tim's "transformation equation" will go into the final spec. --Travis (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Actually, SGI released OpenGL in 1992, and (according to ldraw.org) James released LDraw in 1995. So OpenGL predates LDraw by 3 years. (...) Good point. You are correct that -y is "up". I don't see that anywhere in the spec, and it's quite (...) (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Let me restate the above.....because I think I'm wrong about the timeline. LDraw is a stand alone specification, so what OpenGL expects is not relevent. The LDraw specification must specify what its coordinate and matricies formats mean, (...) (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Hi Rob, Not to be indelicate, but LDraw was around *before* OpenGL. That said, I think the document *must* explicitly show something like this: a b c d e f g h i Furthermore I think the document must explain x, y and z. If I remember correctly (...) (17 years ago, 28-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Oh, yeah, forgot about that. I think that was even brought up the last time I was involved in such a discussion. --Travis (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) But you should still see them on transparent parts, right? Don (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) I see in the stl2dat release notes for version 1.12 an options -o5 (which isn't in the documented options list above) that makes it generate convex optional edges (I think it means concave). That's probably why the inner part isn't smooth in (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) The current public version (1.12) of stl2dat set the face color to green or blue when the face contains degenerated triangles (with 2 or 3 coincident points) in the original stl file. This information can be used to clean the result file. I (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) It looks like the program used to convert these was not perfect. I’m bet we just need to add the correct edge-color and main-color to the areas that are green and blue. Gallagher (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) Digital Designer and the LDraw System Of Tools. This relationship has led (...) This is great news indeed. I am happy to see this collaboration between LDraw and LEGO (especially since I see (URL) parts> I have been (URL) looking for> in this (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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That's great news. Just out of curiosity, do the green and blue bits have any significance, or are they just random? Since LDView was used for the part images, and there are plenty of smooth curves, it appears that stl2dat did a reasonably good job (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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Hi folks, as announced in this thread: (URL) members of the Steering Committee (SteerCo) have been in contact with LEGO to look at ways of working together to ease the conversion between the LEGO Digital Designer and the LDraw System Of Tools. This (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.announce, FTX) !!
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(...) That fixed both problems. --Travis (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm still going through Tim Courtney's (et al) "Virtual Lego" book, so it will be a little while before I know enough to make something worth contributing. But I will eventually :) Rob (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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Since LDraw.org now requires at least five entries to proceed with each Model and Scene of the Month contest ((URL) I just want to encourage everyone with any interesting LDraw models to send them in so the show can go on. Rules and submission (...) (17 years ago, 27-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Certainly not intentional. I haven't the faintest idea why that happens. (...) For me both mouse wheel scroll and scrollbar scroll worked as expected during testing the other day, but today when I change my computer to the Toy Story Look (...) (17 years ago, 26-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That seems to have partially solved the problem, but it introduced a change (maybe intentional). LDList now shows up with Win2K style title bar in XP even when themes are enabled. (Your screenshot from the old version shows it working with (...) (17 years ago, 25-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thanks to Travis Cobbs I've managed to reproduce, and hopefully fix, this problem. The download is updated, but not the web pages - (URL) updated version is 4.11, please download it again and retry on your system and let me know if the fix (...) (17 years ago, 25-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) jrsoftware forums helped me get rid of it! The download is updated, but not the web pages - (URL) updated version is 4.11 (17 years ago, 25-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) As a fellow software developer, I understand the need for people to report issues they come across. Sadly, we just do not have the time, money, hardware, patience, etc to test every scenario while still writing all the new stuff as well. On (...) (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Not sure if themes have to be enabled or not. However, it looks like the setting is bit 3 in a registry key. See here: (URL) that the value appears to be stored in little endian binary, instead of a DWORD, so be careful if you're modifying the (...) (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I have Win XP SP2, run in Classic mode, maybe Themes is a prerequisite too? I don't have TweakUI installed, do you happen to know which registry entry is involved? (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Haha! I love the thumbnail feature! Too cool. Awesome work. -Stefan- (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) Thanks. Glad to hear that the problem has corrected itself. And even though that happened, I'm still glad that you reported your problem. I actually don't get enough bug reports from LDView. I'd say about half the bugs that I see and fix are (...) (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) If it doesn't happen to you, it's obviously kind of hard (read: well-nigh impossible) to fix. Having said that, as far as I know, the setting is enabled by default (at least in Windows XP). I know exactly how to enable and disable it with (...) (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Renderer: GeForce4 420 Go/AGP/SSE2 Version: 1.4.0 (...) It was 3.1 beta 1, but feel free to ignore all this. I went back to 3.1b1 to test and then reinstalled 3.2 and its fine now. I'm not sure what happened (...) (17 years ago, 24-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) As the person who wrote the current rules here's my reasoning behind this. The issue is not the fear of models being sold or something like that, it is simply not forcing someone to do something they don't want to do. The MOTM contest doesn't (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I replied on another message but they are taking almost an entire day to show up. My reason is simply consistency: spaces are used to separate fields, but when it comes to file names, spaces are part of the field. If we used commas to separate (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Are you authenticating by replying to the "Message awaiting authentication" email? If so, see my thread in lugnet.admin.general (and lugnet.-off-topic.test) about the very long delay I experience when auth-ing via email. Doing it via the web (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Those matrices would be wrong in both cases (assuming xyz is the translation), you probably swapped those with the next matrices. :) (...) The first one here is a column major and the second is a row major matrix, and you are right, they are (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) My issue with spaces is not with programs supporting them or not, it's that the elements inside a line are delimited by spaces, you have 1 <space> color <space> x <space> ... <part> but then when it comes to file names that rule is broken. I (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Thanks for the research! Unfortunately, I can't see the problem, the definition of the listbox in LDList doesn't match the description in the jrsoftware thread, Power Toys are delivered by Microsoft without any guarantees, ..., I think I'll (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, I think you are correct. It makes sense from that perspective. The line type 1 naming rules apply to anything referenced by a type 1 line, including submodels. Thanks, Mike! Jim (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I think the answer is very easy. Linetype 1 is for referencing to an existing LDraw file, doesn't matter which type (part, subpart, primitive etc.) So it is not necessary to describe that in the MPD Language Extension. The MPD Language Extension is (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK. I will probably do this. (...) ;> to entirely custom alternate models as well? (By "alternate models" I mean (...) Right. Sounds good. (...) Ha, a good point! Sounds like LDView is used for the contest renders, so it probably wouldn't be a (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) OK. I think I will stick to the conservative naming scheme for now, just to be on the safe side. LDView's automatic part downloading is just killer. I suppose a reason to use submodels is to guard against the chance the unofficial parts are (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) How is this different from photographers sharing high-resolution images of their work on Flickr, or developers contributing to open-source programs? I would argue that with the original material available for others to compare, it is even (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Ok, the whitespace debate has gone on long enough. It's been years now! Someone in the LSC needs to step up and really define what's an acceptable filename, whitespace and all. Personally I think since MLCad is established, popular, and pretty (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) So we may considered this fully, please give your reasons for this request. The file names always fall at the end of the line, so, "because it's easier to parse" has already been considered by the LSC and discarded many thanks William Howard (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) no, not at all! (...) this is a critical point. not everyone wants give away in-depth info of his/her models fearing that people copy and sell them. w. (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) Travis is correct. I use a command line script to render the images, with LDview gracefully downloading unofficial parts from the PT. w. (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I think we need to draw this particular discussion to a close. From all the comments around matrix manipulation it is clear that this part of the specification is ambiguous and so needs further consideration. Unfortunately, whatever method we (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) As this thread is for the discussion of the LDraw specification can any further debate of what the OpenGL specification may or may not say please be continued on .off-topic.debate Thanks William (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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--snip-- (...) I'm not new to matrices and Travis' example is still a little unrigorous which is why I propose the mathematically sound form above. Note the amount of discussion already here because of what people consider 'standard' or 'given' (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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Some quick answers... (...) Excellent. Thanks. (...) You should include the unofficial parts as submodels. (...) So long as you invent it then it's yours to submit. We don't want someone to post an MPD of the alternative model shown on the back of (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) ... (...) I'm not a contest admin, but I would like to point out that LDView is currently used to render the MOTM/POTM contest entries. So from a purely technical standpoint, it's unlikely that problems will be encountered with unofficial part (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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The new minimum-entries rule has inspired me to enter the LDraw.org Model of the Month contest. I have a few questions: 1. Should entries that use unofficial parts (real LEGO parts that are not yet LDraw certified) include those parts in the MPD (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)
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(...) If I were new to 3D graphics (and I am ) I would be confused by this, I would have to ask someone else how to interpret the spec. I think Travis' proposal to show the two different matrices that can be built from the line of values is more (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I found the thread on the Inno Setup forums, and based on my reading, it sounds like a Delphi bug with owner-drawn TListBox controls. It may be a bug in the MS List Box control when owner-draw is enabled; I don't know if the Delphi classes use (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think a full worked through example would do the specs a lot of good. If I understand right the line 1 c x y z a b c d e f g h i part.dat transforms any point by the operation (u, v, w)->(x+a*u+b*v+c*w, y+d*u+e*v+f*w, z+g*u+h*v+i*w) With it (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) That's the first I've heard of new performance problems in 3.2. I don't think I got any reports of that for the 3.2 Beta, and the 3.2 final is only bug fixes. It certainly runs fine on the computers I've tested it on. Can you copy the first (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) It affects a fair few other programs (the wonderful Inno setup and various parts of windows itself) so is not LDList specific. IIRC, there was a code workaround that was applied in Inno but you'd need to check the newsgroup history. (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thank you Travis. Is it just me or is this version unusable slow? Drawing anything takes a good few seconds of 100% CPU whereas the same model and settings were almost instant in previous versions. I can go back to some previous build if it (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I thought I'd add a clarification to the above. A quick look at LDView's (URL) Change History> file will show that I only added support for spaces in submodel filenames in version 3.0. Furthermore, I listed it as an addition, not a bug fix, (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
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(...) I think this newsgroup is a good place. (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) He's talking about the smooth scrolling ("list box animation" in the General section of Tweak UI from Windows XP PowerToys). The actual end result is correct. When you click, it ends up at the next page of data after it's done animating the (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's true. However, unless I'm badly mistaken, in addition to the xyz1 being at the end, you also need the other parameters to be in the proper direction in order to get the results that the LDraw library wants. The following two matrices (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I tried it on XP SP2 and get the same issue. Note : the data in the list ends up in the right location, it's just that the scroll effect is backwards. Again, move the thumb halfway down the scroll bar. Click the down arrow and watch how the (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Yes, but look where the x, y, and z are. The example matrix is transposed vs the "standard" one shown in OpenGL text. If you swap the rows and columns in the above matrix, you'll get the OpenGL one. It's an alternate way of expressing a 3D (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I think we'll just include two examples of how the data would go into a matrix in the two different directions and leave it at that. At this point, I think the best thing would be to add something like the following to the currently proposed (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I'm on SP1. I'll try updating to SP2 and see if that fixes it. Rob (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) ?? Doesn't happen to me, I'm running 4.1 on WinXP, SP2. Anyone else? (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) The OpenGL 2.1 specification: page 23 Vertex Arrays "Matrices are loaded into these slots in column major order." page 43 Matrices LoadMatrix takes a pointer to a 4 × 4 matrix stored in column-major order as 16 consecutive floating-point (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I'm running LDList v 4.1, 2004-Apr-16 on Win XP First, move the slider thumb to the center of the scroll bar area. If you click the Up arrow a few times, the list text scrolls down, which is as expected. If you click the Down arrow, you'll see (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I first replied almost three hours ago, but for some reason e-mail authentication never got this posted. I had to send it again and authenticate on the web page to get the message to appear?? FUT: lugnet.admin.general (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I think this newsgroup is a good place. (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) You guys are both wrong, OpenGL is NOT column major. This is one of the biggest mistakes I keep hearing people repeat about OpenGL. The API doesn't care if you use column major or row major matrices, it just expects an array of 16 floats with (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Hi again. What I meant was, I am confused by the (apparent) difference in what the *current* spec says on this issue, and what the new proposed spec says. If you will look at the current spec and scroll down near the end to the Line Format (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) From the standpoint of OpenGL, it uses row-major ordering. There are two ways to draw a transformation matrix. OpenGL uses the following (array offsets shown after): A D G X 0 4 8 12 B E H Y 1 5 9 13 C F I Z 2 6 10 14 0 0 0 1 3 7 11 15 (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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Bricksmith and LDView accept descriptive submodel names containing spaces, punctuation, and no file extension. However, I have been given the impression that MPD files containing submodel names like these can be problematic for MLCad and other tools (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Bug in current version of LDList
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(...) I would report bugs to the developer. I see an email address at the bottom of the page at (URL) and on the LDraw.org listing at (URL) the other hand, if your bug report contains any interim solutions for working around the bug, I would (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Where should I report a bug in LDList v4.1? Or is there a database of existing bugs for any of the LDraw family of apps? Rob (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) I came across the *current* LDraw file spec here: (URL) the matrix example is using column-major ordering. So now I'm really confused. Does the current spec use column-major, and the new spec is proposing to change it? Or is the current spec (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | *** LDView Version 3.2 Released ***
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LDView 3.2 is now available for download from the LDView downloads page here: (URL) Please note that the translations have not yet been updated to work with this release, and translations created for version 3.1 will refuse to load. The 3.2 (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, FTX) !!
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| | Re: Question about LDraw.org Library Header Specification
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(...) Yes. (...) Yes to that too. I've fixed both of these problems. Hopefully I didn't introduce new once (the content system on ldraw.org can be finicky). --Travis (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Question about LDraw.org Library Header Specification
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At this url: (URL) you scroll down to the first Examples header (in bold) there's this line: 0 !CATEGORY Animal 0 !KEYWORDS Sting, Poison, Adventurers, Egypt Is there supposed to be a line break between "Animal" and "0"? Also, a little later in the (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: New rule for SOTM/MOTM
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(...) That sounds like an excellent change! Spotlighted. Cheers Richie Dulin (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | New rule for SOTM/MOTM
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Dear all, We have decided to introduce an additional rule to the MOTM and SOTM contests on LDraw.org in order to make them a little more interesting. We will now only run these contests if there are a minimum of five entries. The current situation (...) (17 years ago, 22-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) !
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) I'm new to this community, and am just learning 3D graphics, but I will comment on this as someone who will eventually use this file format to read in and render these parts in 3D. 1. Character encoding - for a file spec, not specifying this (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) I think the original suggestion that we mention that it is in row-major format is valid. I agree that the fact that OpenGL (almost certainly one of the top two most used 3D APIs on the planet) uses column major format is a good reason to (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) The "so-what" would be that I, as someone who will eventually read in these files to create OpenGL renderings of them, would expect the matrices to be in column-major order, unless explicitly stated otherwise. Rob (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Umm, so what? LDraw is not, and should not, be dependent on OpenGL. Having worked with transformation matrix in both formats, I find the row-major format much easier to hand-edit than column-major organization. At least for LDraw-type usage (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Page 16 of the OpenGL spec, v2.1 states: "Only convex polygons are guaranteed to be drawn correctly by the GL." Rob (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Is this really what the LDRAW spec is stating? Because that would be contrary to the OpenGL spec, in which the standard ordering of matrices is column-major. So if you have a row like a b c d e f g h That would be interpreted in OpenGL as a e (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Looking for 7819 as a .DAT file
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Hi, I found 7740, 7815 and 7820 on brickshelf but unfortunately no 7819, does anyone has it as a file maybe? Why do I am looking for that? I want to include a lego room in my website (www.adri.de) with my (and maybe your?) lego MOCS and sets and (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.models)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) After reading the text (Great work on part of the LSC), these are my comments. I think it would be helpful to mention the used matrix in line type 1 is row orientated (more clearly then 'standard matrix'). A paragraph about line type 1 (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Keep in mind, the original LDraw tool treats concave quads as triangles, effectively ignoring the contained vertex. So, by the 0.27 "spec", concave quads are inappropriate. Which can be translated as they are disallowed, but the renderer copes (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(I'll comment on other items later, but want to get this out ASAP.) (...) This is a question for both Orion and the LDraw part library admins. If I write a program that splits all the concave quads in all existing official parts into two triangles, (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) I'm not sure yet what we on the LSC will decide with respect to concave quads. It may be that we'll change that paragraph to a recommendation. I personally don't like them, but I can see Orion's point. I may write a utility program to (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Looking for 7740 as a .DAT file
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O.k., finally found it on brickshelf... cu, adrian (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.models)
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| | Re: Looking for 9V switch as a .DAT file
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Thats is, thanks Manfred! (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Actually I find it quite logically it's not supported. And I don't think it's a specific OpenGL thing. Once the vertices's are not concave, you basically stop having a Quad all to getter. It becomes a polygon, and how is the hardware supposed (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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(...) Hi there. I'm just getting up to speed with OpenGL so it will be a little while before I can really sink my teeth into this. But, one thing I have learned so far is that the rule about non-concave quads is actually a limitation of OpenGL. It (...) (17 years ago, 21-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)
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| | Re: Looking for 9V switch as a .DAT file
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Or are you looking for this kind of switches: (URL) friendly greetings, Manfred. (17 years ago, 20-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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