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Re: LDraw File Format Spec 1.0 DRAFT - Call for Public Comments
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Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:02:21 GMT
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--snip--

Neither.  It's just a question of wording.  As long as you put the X, Y, and Z
in the appropriate place (and the 0s in the other appropriate spots), and as
long as you do your transformations correctly, both ways produce the same
results.

--Travis

I think a full worked through example would do the specs a lot of good. If I
understand right the line

1 c x y z a b c d e f g h i part.dat

transforms any point by the operation

(u, v, w)->(x+a*u+b*v+c*w, y+d*u+e*v+f*w, z+g*u+h*v+i*w)

With it spelled out explicitly like that a programmer can use whatever internal
format they like.

Tim

If I were new to 3D graphics (and I am ) I would be confused by this, I would
have to ask someone else how to interpret the spec. I think Travis' proposal to
show the two different matrices that can be built from the line of values is
more clear than the equation. Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand
words, or in this case, a big equation ;)

Rob

I'm not new to matrices and Travis' example is still a little unrigorous which
is why I propose the mathematically sound form above. Note the amount of
discussion already here because of what people consider 'standard' or 'given'
forms of the matrices. The form I give is totally unambiguous.

Of course I'd like both ultimately.

Tim



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(...) I think we need to draw this particular discussion to a close. From all the comments around matrix manipulation it is clear that this part of the specification is ambiguous and so needs further consideration. Unfortunately, whatever method we (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)

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(...) If I were new to 3D graphics (and I am ) I would be confused by this, I would have to ask someone else how to interpret the spec. I think Travis' proposal to show the two different matrices that can be built from the line of values is more (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad)

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