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Re: MOTM Contest Questions and a Proposal
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lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad
Date: 
Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:58:10 GMT
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Some quick answers...

In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Jim DeVona wrote:
The new minimum-entries rule has inspired me to enter the LDraw.org Model of the
Month contest. I have a few questions:

Excellent. Thanks.

1. Should entries that use unofficial parts (real LEGO parts that are not yet
LDraw certified) include those parts in the MPD file? I know there is no rule
requiring this, but I am curious if it would be helpful.

You should include the unofficial parts as submodels.

2. Does the rule against official LEGO models and box art-inspired models apply
to entirely custom alternate models as well? (By "alternate models" I mean
"MOCs" created only with pieces from a single set.)

So long as you invent it then it's yours to submit. We don't want someone to
post an MPD of the alternative model shown on the back of the box, other than
that it's up to you what parts you use.

I assume for the purpose of the contest, if not in general, the answer to the
question I pose at http://news.lugnet.com/cad/dev/?n=10660 is that submodel
names should indeed be conservatively treated as filenames.

Probably best to be conservative. I don't think your entry would be vetoed if
you weren't but the less risk of extra work we (actually just Willy) have to do
the happier we'll be.

One incidental point I would like to make about MOTM voting is that to me, the
composition of an LDraw file is as important as the screenshot in judging how
"good" the model is. For example, a well-composed model may be comprised of
articulated submodels for each moving part, whereas a less impressive model
might not utilize submodels, making it difficult to "pose" or otherwise
manipulate the final creation. For other people, the STEP sequence may be
important for creating intuitive instructions.

In either case, I propose that the contestant LDraw files be made available to
voters as part of the ballot. This requirement would have two advantages.
Firstly, it would allow voters to incorporate substantive criteria in their
decision by inspecting the structure of the actual LDraw file (after all, this
is an LDraw contest). Secondly, it would be an excellent opportunity to
encourage LDraw "best practices." As the LDraw format itself moves towards
standardization, why not emphasize the value of well-designed models?

Admittedly, this value is rather abstract, but with all the fuss about the
standard and part certification, it seems reasonable to celebrate models that
aspire to the same quality as the system with which they were built.

So those are my two questions and my two cents!

Jim

That's an interesting point and one which we will certainly take into account.
Expect some work behind the scenes on this (although possibly not a lot given
other more pressing issues).

Tim



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(...) OK. I will probably do this. (...) ;> to entirely custom alternate models as well? (By "alternate models" I mean (...) Right. Sounds good. (...) Ha, a good point! Sounds like LDView is used for the contest renders, so it probably wouldn't be a (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)

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The new minimum-entries rule has inspired me to enter the LDraw.org Model of the Month contest. I have a few questions: 1. Should entries that use unofficial parts (real LEGO parts that are not yet LDraw certified) include those parts in the MPD (...) (17 years ago, 23-Aug-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad)

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