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Re: A letter to Todd
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Mon, 19 Mar 2001 07:25:57 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.nntp, Mark Papenfuss writes:
> > I am going to pull something from above:
> > "Eric may have been under the impression"
> > ~ and ~
> > "not difficult for me to imagine that"
> > Now those are assumptions,
>
> Hardly assumptions. Predictions based on how you have conducted yourself in
> writing. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not you ARE a 13-year-old,
> everything you've said tells me that you wish to be treated as if you are a
> 13-year-old.
As somebody looking in form the outside, maybe I can be a voice of reason.
So here it goes;
What you made were assumptions, you assumed he is a thirteen year old. If
you do not know something and take a guess you are making an assumption. You
are only trying to play tricks with the English language. I have been
following this debate (and yes Mark, it was a debate) and I did not see
where Mark acted like a thirteen year old. Mark, untill a day or two ago
acted like an adult the entire time. He could have very easily reacted
differently when Eric took the personal shot at him (and yes, it was a
personal attack). From what I can tell, you stated that you thought he was a
thirteen year old because he used the word "lamest". Mark is from the
Southern California region, and so am I - and I can tell you that word is
widley used by all age groups here in Southern California. Now from what I
can tell, you are from somewhere back east - you must not use that word out
where you live. But to assume Mark is a thirteen year old because of this is
strange. You must have better reasoning.
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> > you trying to weasel out of it just shows your
> > immaturity even more.
>
> I certainly don't think he's trying to weasel out of anything (I don't even
> see what he'd have to try to weasel out of anyway). He was trying to
> explain politely to you (and this point seems to have been lost on you) why
> I said what I said to what he said to what you said. I'm also trying to
> explain same.
I would hardly say Eric has been polite to Mark. Eric made a personal attack
on Mark and has refused to say he was sorry, and you have defended this
immature action of Eric's. I know you two are friends, but to back him up on
something that he did was wrong makes you wrong also.
> I'm an adult but I don't always act like one. If I act like an 8-year-old,
> I expect people to treat me like an 8-year-old.
>
> > Then what should I take it as? You had, and still have no idea what my age
> > is - and you confirmed you said you thought I was a 13 year old. So what
> > would you say this is? You made an uneducated and stupid guess.
>
> Food for thought: Based on how you have conducted and continue to conduct
> yourself in writing publicly (which is all anyone here has to go on), what
> other reasonable guesses do you leave your readers?
>
> --Todd
From what I read, Mark and you were having a nice, tidy debate, untill Eric
chimed in with his thirteen year old statment. And Mark had every right to
not be happy with that. But I would say Mark has conducted himself better
than you have, and much better than Eric has.
I am not taking sides, just pointing out what I see.
Scott
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| (...) Hardly assumptions. Predictions based on how you have conducted yourself in writing. As far as I'm concerned, whether or not you ARE a 13-year-old, everything you've said tells me that you wish to be treated as if you are a 13-year-old. (...) (...) (23 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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