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In lugnet.admin.nntp, Kyle D. Jackson writes:
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> Yes Mark, they do have "some real power". I'd rather not drag this
> major incident up, but I feel it is relevant---some may have forgotten
> it, and others may have never heard about it:
>
> A while back some info was posted here on LUGNET by a fan(s) about
> upcoming set releases from TLC. I cannot recall whether this info
> was available in public domain at that time. (I believe it was found
> in the public domain, but ended up there because of a blunder at
> TLC. I cannot find the relevant thread(s), perhaps someone else
> can.) At any rate, TLC was very quick to pull rank and serve LUGNET
> with a legal order that the information be purged from the LUGNET
> servers. There was no friendliness about this. It was an order that
> had to be obeyed to avoid the legal consequences. It forced Todd
> to do what I believe was a first for LUGNET: censor messages. This
> all occurred against the backdrop of some promising and friendly
> exchanges between LEGO Direct and LUGNETers.
>
> I think that incident served as a sobering reminder of the fact
> that there is "us", the LEGO fans, and "they", the company that
> produces the product. We are here because of our hobby. They are
> here because of their business. And while most interactions will
> be generally friendly between LUGNET and TLC, do not forget that
> TLC will not hesitate to "show who's boss" when it suits them.
>
> A key thing here is that TLC has the right to do so where their
> business is concerned. Likewise, I ackowledge Todd and Suzanne
> have the same rights to do so where LUGNET is concerned. If they
> feel certain policies need to be implemented/changed to maintain
> and protect their vision for LUGNET, then they can, and should,
> do so. I fully support Todd and Suzanne for cautiously guarding
> LUGNET against any external influence, corporate or otherwise,
> which has potential to undermine their vision for LUGNET and its
> participant fans.
>
>
> KDJ
THANK YOU! This really did explain more to me than everything else combined.
Now if this had been posted 2 or three days ago, it would have been even
better, lol!! But really - Thank you.
Mark P.
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| (...) I second that! And add Suzanne's name there too! :] (...) Yes Mark, they do have "some real power". I'd rather not drag this major incident up, but I feel it is relevant---some may have forgotten it, and others may have never heard about it: A (...) (23 years ago, 19-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.direct)
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