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| | | (...) ... on behalf of LEGO? (...) Well what did they fund with the payment they gave? It thought it was for Lugnet? (Accept that you may not wish to divulge this.) "LUGNET is grateful for the generous gifts of its donors, which help it to thrive, (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Dave Lovelace
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| | | | | (...) How in the heck could it be inferred thus that it is *LEGO(tm)* that is doing the funding here? Do you know what the word "donor" means? The "donors" are users like you and me, and everyone else in this depressing string and beyond, that have (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | (...) I do not want to turn this into an issue, but my point was that the Lego donation, I assumed, was used to fund the further development of Lugnet. Further to that, because LEGO does support LUGNET in this way, as you also do, it does (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) It does to me too. And there's nothing wrong with that. I'm a member, I haven't finished paying my dues, but when I do, I'll donate. And I pay higher than (I think) reasonable prices at Auczilla because I know that's funding LUGNET too (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) I was umnaware that the American Heritage Dictionary was a resource for legal terminology. I am not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure the legal terms "donor" and "funded by" are vastly different. I also think you're oversimplifying. Donor, which (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | Lorbaat <eric@nospam.thirteen.net> wrote in message news:FuLvzI.Gs@lugnet.com... (...) English (...) as (...) fund (...) money (...) legal (...) That may well be, but Chris has managed to back his opinion - you have not. (...) by" (...) they (...) (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) Sorry Eric, that was a little terse – I should have worded it better. Scott A (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) The tense of the verb is critical. A statement indicating that someone "funds" (present) or "is funding" (present participle) something is very different from a statement indicating that someone "funded" (past) or "has funded" (past (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:FuM8At.4sJ@lugnet.com... (...) as (...) fund (...) LUGNET. (...) Todd (...) of (...) statement. I have no intention of getting involved in semantics here, but I'd just like to say that I 100% (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) I knew what you meant, and I didn't think you meant 100% funding. It's just very important to me to correct an ambiguity for something so important. In my mind, your statement "Lego funds Lugnet" (false) implied that LEGO has funded, funds, (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) That you know it's between 7 and 9% implies that you are using a labor rate for your time... would you be willing to share what that nominal rate is? (Just an idle curiousity question. I suspect that to many of us, the intrinsic WORTH is of (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Instead of "somewhere between 7% to 9%" I should have said "between somewhere around 7% to 9%". It's an educated guess -- to know a "real" figure would require going back in time and taking a different path to get actual numbers. It's (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Nice dodge. :-) I agree, you probably do need more funding/people, but truly an awesome duck of the question without actually saying you were ducking. :-) I'd say add more valueadded features then reconsider the fee structure, or get the (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) ... (...) It seems to me that making the AucZilla engine available to parts auctioneers would generate more revenue than any other single added innovation. Particularly if you could come up with a way of alerting your mailing list (which I (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) I've stated before that I would be willing to pay a percentage on the gross totals of my sales/auctions to someone who can make it truly simple for me to automate the process. Just in what I've done year-to-date I'd estimate I would have be (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yup. Sometimes there is a lot to be said for getting things exactly perfect by a horde of tiny changes and limited trials, but "better is the enemy of good enough" and even in the hobby game there is such a thing as first mover advantage. (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) sort (...) but (...) not (...) I think it is also fair to say that any major investment (time and/or money) in parts auctions may be rather short sighted given that Lego Direct is about to be thrust upon us. I very much doubt LD will be all (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | | (...) That must be alterable. I've done a little code hacking...not real programming like so many of you have/do...and I know that it can be a lot of work. But I also know that it can be done. (...) Maybe so. But I have to assume that the bulk of a (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I don't anticipate LD having much of an impact, if any, on my parts sales. I don't do auctions anymore because they're too labor-intensive for me (even with my own auction site) and they last too long. I'd be willing to bet my prices on just (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | (...) I agree on the second part. On the first part, I believe that no matter how much of a part of daily life LD ever becomes, people will always still be finding LEGO sets on clearance or deep discount and will see it as worth their while to buy (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Erm, that was a bit strong...I'm not actually entirely convinced that LEGO sets will always be around on clearance or deep discount. I could imagine 5 or 10 years down the road, if LD becomes this big monstrous thing spanning across all of (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —James Brown
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| | | | | | | | (...) Agreed. My first parts sale, for example, enabled me to get blue 3x3 corner slopes, as well as a selection of other useful parts, for about $0.0025 each. Compared to the minimum $0.50 each I've seen them for elsewhere (or compared to any (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | (...) How about setting up a system where members can offer parts/sets for sale (fixed price) and you get a cut of the transaction, and a listing fee, just like Ebay? Parts trading would be big now if there was a central, partsref-enabled trading (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | | Re: funding —Todd Lehman
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| | | | | | (...) Definitely. --Todd (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Todd Lehman
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| | | | (...) Two statements are shown below. One is true and one is false. (1) Lego Funds Lugnet (***FALSE***) (2) Brad Justus, on behalf of the LEGO Company, made a financial donation to LUGNET in April, 2000. (***TRUE***) There is an extremely big (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) I'll say! The first one has their name incorrectly capitalized. :-) So it clearly MUST be wrong. <grins, ducks and runs> <circles back for one more gibe> But both are lacking in the TM or (R) thingies! See how you like THAT, LEGO(R)! More (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | (...) So what did they _fund_ with their donation? Does the donation not indicate that they support the aims of Lugnet, and endorse it as an entity? Or do they have a record of giving donations to organisation whose aims they do not support? The (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Eric Joslin
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| | | | (...) Why do you insist on being so dense? Many people, including myself, have explained the difference between funding and donating to a cause. Yes, *in spirit* Brad Justus and Lego Direct would seem to "support Lugnet". No, in a *financial sense*, (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | (...) OK, I'm being dense. Educate me a little. What are you basing this on? How does "support Lugnet" mean they 100% pay for the show? It does not mean that to me. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | FUT to l.o-t.d (...) I really take exception to your tone and wording. The fact is that you're wrong. Plainly. Painfully. And then you have the unmittigated gall to call someone else dense. I think it is you who simply don't get it. (...) Many? The (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Right! :-) I've been pretty sporadic but my latest eBates check came so another tiny dollop is coming. since I switched to the web I haven't had my siggy reminding people that if you sign up for eBates and use member ID lar 1/2 of my income (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | (...) Nope, you were right on target. I was wrong. I let a particularly frustrating day at work mix with a bunch of other stuff and went off. I pretty much regretted it shortly after sending it, but c'est la vie. eric (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | (...) Oh...OK. Sorry about that. I guess I got my hackles up. When I've regretted sending a note, I just cancel it. I like being able to do that even if it's only been used a couple of times. Chris (feeling disarmed :-) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not undeservedly. (...) I considered asking Todd to cancel it, but decided to let it stand as a form of mortification to remind me not to do it again. Besides, now people have replied to it, etc. eric (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Out of curiosity, how much sign-up traffic do you estimate your sig pulled/pulls in? I'm curious, because mine has generated squat. I'm curious as to why exactly - whether it's that people generally ignore .sigs, or that alladvantage's sign-up (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.market.services)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) not that much. Maybe 40 bucks total for Lugnet and the same for me. PayPal and X on the other hand generated more than 300 USD in referrals to me and as much back to the joiners (since I split 50 50 there). I can't speak for anyone else but (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.market.services)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Mike Stanley
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| | | | | | | | (...) May not work for you, which I can understand since you seem to do a lot of your surfing on a laptop, but it works fine for me. On my 21" monitor I barely notice the ads and they certainly don't interfere with my surfing. We make enough each (...) (25 years ago, 16-May-00, to lugnet.market.services)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | (...) Maybe because your sig doesn't include your member code? I've spent the last twenty minutes trying to figure out how to sign up and credit you. Only after seeing someone else's sig with a three-letter&three number code to input have I figured (...) (25 years ago, 20-May-00, to lugnet.market.services)
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| | | | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) I (...) Nope. I didn't include my member code, but I'll happily give it to anyone who e-mails me and asks for it. This appears to be a mistake on my part, but I wanted to know how much sign-up traffic my Lugnet sig was generating, so I could (...) (25 years ago, 23-May-00, to lugnet.market.services)
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| | | | | | Re: May-June 2000 Mania Magazine —Richard Franks
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| | | | (...) Scott isn't being dense, he's playing devils advocate. While it can be incredibly tiresome having every decision and process put under the microscope, it can also be incredibly rewarding having members of a community prepared to invest the (...) (25 years ago, 15-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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