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Re: Worth the wait? (NO!)
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Date: 
Mon, 11 Jun 2001 01:17:45 GMT
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  I see a lot of your point Brian, Though there's another side to this..
If this helps Lego to make some money, it will help them keep more
people on the payroll. Which hopefully will help them see that we are
willing to buy sets with more than 20 pieces to create a building.

  Right now what they need is to get out of the red.. They didn't have
to do more than check a few molds, check on some printing for torso's,
walls and flag, adjust production schedules, check if the instructions
were still available and print a new box.. all the rest of the design
time and lead time has been paid for already. I think it's a good move
for them.  When they originally sold these sets, it made them money...
Right now any money is good money for them.

  I'm glad to be able to get this set, wish I could afford more than 1..
(I hate being a poor student) At the same time there are a lot of other
sets I hope they do this with also.  I've always wanted a BSB or SES or
Metroliner and Club Car, or the Croc engine, how about some old technic
sets with real beams! There's a lot they can offer if they just get
their heads outta their butt and do it!!!  Granted, I'd love new sets
too, though not the crap they've been putting out... (don't hate me
castle people, I do like other themes, just not as much!)

Maybe, just maybe, Brad can get them to see the error of their ways with
this... it's worth a shot!

Tamy




Brian Kasprzyk wrote:

This is a momentous occasion for LEGO fans, AFOL's especially
I think but that's mostly because that's what I am at this point.  I
LOVE the Guarded Inn selection as the lead set for the Legends line,
if you don't like it or it's position as the lead set, don't buy it.

Will SOMEONE PLEASE READ MY POST.  Second thing I said in my post is that I
plan to buy the darned set, and that it wasn't a bad set.  My God you people
just don't care what other people think.

(it just means more for the rest of us :^)

(I tried  to leave enough text in for context)

As always,
Mike

Well, I've been on vacation for the last week and was excited to get back to
reading some good Castle posts.  Instead, I end up spending an hour reading
about personal attacks all around.  with that being said, I will add my
opinion to this long series of rants, personal feelings/beliefs and would
like to have's'.

There are 2-3 points of interest with Lego's new actions.
1.  Re-releasing old sets can be profitable, but to what extent?
  a.  People argue that it de-values existing sets.
  b.  People argue it gives people a 'second' chance at older sets no longer
produced.  But, if Lego is looking to make a profit, then why only release
it to S@H?  This will inflame places like Ebay who don't have a clue about
S@H.  Collectors will buy them up and throw them on Ebay to turn even more
profit.  You doubt this, think again.  Look what happened with the 'supposed
old stock being found' in Europe of castle accessory sets.  I still think
this was a ploy on Lego's behalf as a 'test the waters' before we fully
commit to the Legends.  Anyway, look at all that stuff that is out on Ebay
going for big bucks.  (Hey, even I bought the rare white dragon plumes from
someone in Germany).  So, to say that this will relieve the market is
ridiculous.
  c.  Collectors will still pay larger amounts for the 'original.'

2.  Is Lego really a collectible antique/secure investment?
  a.  Someone mentioned that only in 2 states it could be considered a
collectible.  I agree with this statement.  One of the biggest reasons I
feel it is not a collectible is that I can never go to a flea market or
antique sale and find any in a consistent manner.  (People that have please
post!)  I feel this is because very few sets stay intact including the box,
which is the only way people can be sure of it's origin.  Individual Lego
pieces have no dates on them!  So, you can't guaranty that a piece was
produced in 1960 or yesterday.

3.  Lego's move to re-release sets in my opinion is a cop-out.  Instead of
producing sets people will like so that they don't lose a profit, they
release sets that were already popular.  (I will qualify this as this, Lego
started several new ventures, so they may not have lost any money or little
on the sale of actual Lego sets.  I don't need to start another tug-o-war on
this issue).  Don't start on me too, I am glad they did this and will line
up to, to buy one (all I can afford, though 10 would be more to my liking).
There have been posts in the past about this very issue.  Why doesn't Lego
just put out sets that were just as high of quality and have the ability to
be modular?  I have been reading more about that in the last few months then
anything else.  Again, I am not condemning Lego, I am not 'against' Lego nor
do I say that they should not have done this. I am glad they are trying to
appease the collectors. What I am saying is, "Where's the new sets that make
us want to buy more!?!" (than one copy)  I have 2 boys and I will tell you
what they like, Adventures.  They are modular; they have cool animals, lots
of mini-figs and some cool parts that allow them to use their imagination.

Again, I like Lego being innovative, but get real, re-releasing existing
sets is not innovative, it is not a huge profit making venture (else it
would be released to mass market) and it is not 'adding' to the
expandability of my "Castle Kingdom."  I can still get this set off of Ebay
(though I would never pay that price, may find it in a garage sale...) or
other locations.  I can't get new sets though if Lego doesn't create them!

You can believe if you like that I am saying 'boo-hoo' to this line, but
it's not true.  I just want to see new sets that are cool.  Come-on, a cloth
sheet for the back of a castle surely is not an easily defended stronghold.
Get back to great designs Lego!

BK>



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