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Re: Worth the wait? (NO!)
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Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:05:23 GMT
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> > This is a momentous occasion for LEGO fans, AFOL's especially
> > I think but that's mostly because that's what I am at this point. I
> > LOVE the Guarded Inn selection as the lead set for the Legends line,
> > if you don't like it or it's position as the lead set, don't buy it.
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> Will SOMEONE PLEASE READ MY POST. Second thing I said in my post is that I
> plan to buy the darned set, and that it wasn't a bad set. My God you people
> just don't care what other people think.
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> > (it just means more for the rest of us :^)
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> > (I tried to leave enough text in for context)
> >
> > As always,
> > Mike
Well, I've been on vacation for the last week and was excited to get back to
reading some good Castle posts. Instead, I end up spending an hour reading
about personal attacks all around. with that being said, I will add my
opinion to this long series of rants, personal feelings/beliefs and would
like to have's'.
There are 2-3 points of interest with Lego's new actions.
1. Re-releasing old sets can be profitable, but to what extent?
a. People argue that it de-values existing sets.
b. People argue it gives people a 'second' chance at older sets no longer
produced. But, if Lego is looking to make a profit, then why only release
it to S@H? This will inflame places like Ebay who don't have a clue about
S@H. Collectors will buy them up and throw them on Ebay to turn even more
profit. You doubt this, think again. Look what happened with the 'supposed
old stock being found' in Europe of castle accessory sets. I still think
this was a ploy on Lego's behalf as a 'test the waters' before we fully
commit to the Legends. Anyway, look at all that stuff that is out on Ebay
going for big bucks. (Hey, even I bought the rare white dragon plumes from
someone in Germany). So, to say that this will relieve the market is
ridiculous.
c. Collectors will still pay larger amounts for the 'original.'
2. Is Lego really a collectible antique/secure investment?
a. Someone mentioned that only in 2 states it could be considered a
collectible. I agree with this statement. One of the biggest reasons I
feel it is not a collectible is that I can never go to a flea market or
antique sale and find any in a consistent manner. (People that have please
post!) I feel this is because very few sets stay intact including the box,
which is the only way people can be sure of it's origin. Individual Lego
pieces have no dates on them! So, you can't guaranty that a piece was
produced in 1960 or yesterday.
3. Lego's move to re-release sets in my opinion is a cop-out. Instead of
producing sets people will like so that they don't lose a profit, they
release sets that were already popular. (I will qualify this as this, Lego
started several new ventures, so they may not have lost any money or little
on the sale of actual Lego sets. I don't need to start another tug-o-war on
this issue). Don't start on me too, I am glad they did this and will line
up to, to buy one (all I can afford, though 10 would be more to my liking).
There have been posts in the past about this very issue. Why doesn't Lego
just put out sets that were just as high of quality and have the ability to
be modular? I have been reading more about that in the last few months then
anything else. Again, I am not condemning Lego, I am not 'against' Lego nor
do I say that they should not have done this. I am glad they are trying to
appease the collectors. What I am saying is, "Where's the new sets that make
us want to buy more!?!" (than one copy) I have 2 boys and I will tell you
what they like, Adventures. They are modular; they have cool animals, lots
of mini-figs and some cool parts that allow them to use their imagination.
Again, I like Lego being innovative, but get real, re-releasing existing
sets is not innovative, it is not a huge profit making venture (else it
would be released to mass market) and it is not 'adding' to the
expandability of my "Castle Kingdom." I can still get this set off of Ebay
(though I would never pay that price, may find it in a garage sale...) or
other locations. I can't get new sets though if Lego doesn't create them!
You can believe if you like that I am saying 'boo-hoo' to this line, but
it's not true. I just want to see new sets that are cool. Come-on, a cloth
sheet for the back of a castle surely is not an easily defended stronghold.
Get back to great designs Lego!
BK>
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| I see a lot of your point Brian, Though there's another side to this.. If this helps Lego to make some money, it will help them keep more people on the payroll. Which hopefully will help them see that we are willing to buy sets with more than 20 (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) There's only one way to find out. This might be more a testing of the waters on their direction, or perhaps a test of the lego adult fanatic market, or just simply a way to make some money and make the hardcore happy - I'm not at all convinced (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
| | | Re: Worth the wait? (NO!)
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| (...) I think the rerelease of old sets can be a step towards better new sets. One of the reasons I always wished LEGO would put out old sets is that it would raise the bar for current sets. I like to think that once people are exposed to older, (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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| (...) little (...) cannot (...) on (...) to (...) this? (...) good (...) many (...) Yes, it might be good for parts, terrible for sales. You may not be aware, but for a company, having a product line go into thrift shops in such a large quantity is (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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