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Hey folks, I told you about what could happen in July didn't I? :) Oh man, there were so many times I just wanted to blurt it out, but didn't. At first I thought people were going to form a lynching party when everybody realized that I couldn't tell (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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First off, I'd like to thank Mr. Park for giving the community the heads-up a few months back. If not for him, I do believe that this info would have thrown countless individuals into cardio-pulmonary trauma. I for one really appreciated his (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) :-) well, talk about painful silence.. I knew in November of last year! (I was asked not to tell) So, phew! I'm with you, Jimmy - glad that wait is over. But more importantly, very happy to see it come true. I have always *loved* this set. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Hey Suz - where was your "I Know Something That You Don't Know But I Can't Tell You So You'll Just Have to Wait But I Can Promise It Will Really Be Good But In the Meantime Please Don't Talk About It" posting? I don't remember seeing that one. (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Really? You truly believe that there would have been scads of folks going into cardiac arrest over the announcement that a toy is being re-released? Come on - it's not like we're talking about beanie babies or Star Wars action figures. On the (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) lol. well, I didn't sign an NDA, so it wouldn't have sounded very impressive. ;-) -Suz (...) :-D (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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I see the set is in the database... So how long has this page been waiting to be activated? :-) (URL) D. Rich" <suz@baseplate.com> wrote in message news:3B207648.F46381...ate.com... (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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Heh heh Actually, you have Jen Boger to thank for her speedy response to the news today. (She just made the page) -Suz (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Right. Because if you had, barring any explicit release, you'd have to continue not saying whether you knew in advance or not. (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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I know I shall be the only one with this opinion, but frankly I am saddened by the re-release of the Guarded Inn. Yes, I will buy one or two, I'm not saying it's a bad set. I've always wanted one. HOWEVER I see no redeemable feature that would make (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Value is what the market will bear. As for your preferred LEGEND sets, all I can say (as one who is not privy to the NDA info) is wait and see. For all we know, they might be releasing exactly the sets you'd most like to buy. As a brand new (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Almost certainly being one of the "hypocritical castle heads" referenced, I should point out that I never called castle walls worthless, just said I don't need more, and would rather see other things first. (...) IMHO? It's not a $300 set. But (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I guess the question is, are you SADDENED by it or just dissappointed? Sounds more like you just wish they started elsewhere... (...) Personally, I like it for a few different reasons-- It's just got lots of cool pieces that I like: -The red (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I don't love or hate castle walls -- but I'd probably use the faceted bricks instead of the corner wall piece if I had ready access to them. [note: The Castle Expander pack has 4 of these in grey -- I'd like to see them sold in more colors and (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) (snipped) (...) (snipped) (...) Looks like I didn't pick the complaint winner (see my first post) (URL) Set status is given to this set primarily because it is one of only two castle sets that is centered around village life, and not warfare (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I agree in that they are just Lego pieces and beyond the rare red tudor walls (white walls, spray paint 'em red, apply black tape, viola! saved myself over $100) I just can't justify the extreme expense. Simply put, for that kind of money, I (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Remember that this is the first Legends set they may be testing the waters sure Lugnet AFOL's will go out in droves and purchase this kit. (I prordered a few today) but if others buy it when it sells, well then they might deciede to release a (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) While I agree with much of what you say, here's what I see: Set size is important. I went to the first inflation calculator that Google could find for me, and it said that the 2000$ cost of 6080 would be about $90. It also said that the 2000$ (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Would you prefer yet another juniorized castle set? (...) No one forces those people to pay those prices. And the whole point of the Legends line is now we don't have to. (...) Ok. Personally I'm more disgusted by those AFOLs that ask people (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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[warning, non-Castlehead posting] (...) I agree. This was the best Castle set LD could have released as a Legend. Its price point makes it attainable to all LEGO buyers and it was ranked highest on Lugnet. (...) At the risk of this sounding like a (...) (23 years ago, 8-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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It's too bad no one reads posts anymore, they just reply for the sake of replying. Maybe I should return your favor Jimmy and just reply without reading what you've written. (...) by (...) wanted (...) sell (...) things (...) say (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Obviously you have already mastered this style. (top posted too, how.... inconsiderate) <MASSIVE SNIPPAGE TO FOLLOW> the previous players, (...) This 'Dinky little set' is something I wish I'd known about in the times before my dark ages. I (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) little (...) cannot (...) on (...) to (...) this? (...) good (...) many (...) Yes, it might be good for parts, terrible for sales. You may not be aware, but for a company, having a product line go into thrift shops in such a large quantity is (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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I for one appreciate Anthony’s comments. Even though I too am among the countless who are enamored at its arrival. We write in a medium that presents itself as an open forum. Therefore, it is to be expected that some opinion will differ from the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I'm glad that Jimmy said exactly what I was thinking. It seems to me that no matter what LEGO does, everyone complains anyway. Also, it would seem to me that Jimmy did read your post considering that almost your entire post was contained in (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) this? (...) Sigh... No one reads posts anymore. Since you didn't read it, I'll explain. The re-releasing of non-castle sets is unfair, since Castle has been beaten down so much. I complain about the Guarded Inn coming back because unlike John (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) That's a very good point, Anthony. And the only way TLC will triumph over collector's is to re-release a lot of stuff they are not now producing. Perhaps it's in the works. Who knows...? If they produced enough quantity of the rarer elements (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I certainly did read it, which prompted my reply. (...) Well cry me a river. Sorry but I don't buy your idea of 'fairness.' LEGO has no obligation to treat a theme with favored or non favored status on the basis that they have 'beaten it down' (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Tim, I think the term "sour grapes" doesn't actually work in this context -- or at least I'm not sure how you mean it. (...) Others can always do as they please. But there are several REALLY good reasons why Lego doesn't fit into the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) <much snippage> (...) set, at a good price, and I hope LEGO sells a zillion of them. Because if they do, that will give them reason to bring out MORE Castle sets - and hopefully some of the very ones you listed. (Castle is what brought me out (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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Mostly haven't been in this thread, short on time earlier this week. Here's my take overall. Anthony: go ahead and feel that Guarded Inn wasn't the best first release item. Not everyone agrees, I think it *WAS* a great first release but you gave (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Now there's a resonable counter to my statement :) Actually, I find what you wrote there quite interesting, and would be interested in seeing your grading system when it is finished as well. (...) Well, it would probably be in their own (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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I have no idea why I locked onto this, but I just did. (...) This is not in actual fact true. It's only true if you have an anesthetized frog. My experience is that a frog will try to jump out of *anything* a human puts it into. It's one of those (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) I'm not sure what bait I should be taking. I'm just a mild mannered LEGOManiac... Frank (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Until Danger(tm) rears its ugly head. Then you're an intrepid Cave Explorer, Pirate King, and Menace to Bad Drivers everywhere. Just shine the LEGO(tm) Logo into the sky and you'll come! ++Lar (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Danger(tm) must be a Lego-themed bad guy. They're the only ones with ugly heads. <GD&R> Then you're an intrepid Cave Explorer, (...) Unless it's a sunny day. James (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) "...for a great metropolitan newspaper..." Is that a phone booth? :) LFB (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Hah! Really? That's too bad, it *is* a nifty allegory. I hate it when one of those great sentences has no reality-base. Boo. (...) Hah! I know someone who *did* turn it on. Ewww. And amazingly, he's my best friend. ;-) I shudder at the (...) (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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"Shiri Dori" <shirid@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:GEoLtx.HpA@lugnet.com... (...) That wouldn't be any corn-fed Lugnet readin' Iowan we happen to know, would it? Or is that your best friend, who isn't an SO? -Tim (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Yep, that'd be me. Back in my younger days, y'know... but it was all my cousin's idea, I swear! I was an innocent bystander. :-) -Chris (23 years ago, 9-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, I've been on vacation for the last week and was excited to get back to reading some good Castle posts. Instead, I end up spending an hour reading about personal attacks all around. with that being said, I will add my opinion to this long (...) (23 years ago, 10-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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I see a lot of your point Brian, Though there's another side to this.. If this helps Lego to make some money, it will help them keep more people on the payroll. Which hopefully will help them see that we are willing to buy sets with more than 20 (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) There's only one way to find out. This might be more a testing of the waters on their direction, or perhaps a test of the lego adult fanatic market, or just simply a way to make some money and make the hardcore happy - I'm not at all convinced (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Thanks for responding! I can clarify this as such: In order to produce a set, they have to schedule it, run it, package it and all the other things that go into it. While this occurs, they can't run 'x' set now. They can only do 1 or the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) I think the rerelease of old sets can be a step towards better new sets. One of the reasons I always wished LEGO would put out old sets is that it would raise the bar for current sets. I like to think that once people are exposed to older, (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Yes, there are always production costs - my bet is that this cost them considerably less to put back into production than designing a new set. As to production logjam - this is only significant if they are currently at their maximum (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Lemme clarify something: the Lego Classics and Legends line are separate entities that do not hamper new sets whatsoever. Here's a grossly simplified outline of what happened: 1. After several years of pleading, Lego Direct (a new division of (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) #4 is correct Bruce. As Brad pointed out to me, what people don't seem to realize is that when Lego Direct started a year or so ago, LD consisted of Brad and just Brad. He had to come up with a business plan and figure out a way to implement (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)
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(...) I agree with you on all points above. My problem is, I have no money!!! Releasing classic sets for original price, plus inflation (and not all of it) is great. I am afraid they are going to produce more classic sets I don't have and then I (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I have to ask (others may be wondering too), how you can know all this stuff. I recall about a month ago you stated that you do not work for Lego, but here, you are listing, what I would consider, company organization processes. You even refer (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.castle)
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(...) That reminds of the story of Tom Clancy. After releasing one of his books (the Hunt for Red October I think), the U.S. Navy started investigating him for military leaks. Seem that they felt he knew too much about their subs. Then he showed him (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) Which pretty much confirms my guess - complaining about re-issueing old sets instead of coming up with old-style-but-new-designs is tilting at windmills. The forces that got us the one are effectively removed from the process of getting the (...) (23 years ago, 11-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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(...) If it's current molds then they would most likely be used for a set anyways, if its a stored mold, they don't seem to be making money from it unless they use it :^), if it is a new mold (for old parts) then maybe what you are saying is true. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Jun-01, to lugnet.castle)
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