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    Train doors and windows —Christer Sunesson
   Hello I have a friend at LEGO Denmark that i can order LEGO pieces from. I ordered piecenumber 4181,4182,8183,4033,...4511,4510. He said that they didnt have it in stock. Now i wonder if their are any one ho wants those pieces. If ther are a hugh (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Kevin Loch
     What's the piece number for the 1x4x6 trans-lt-blue "three-pane" townjr windows? KL (...) Christer Sunesson wrote: (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Christer Sunesson
     In my list from LEGO its 4117077 white/lt.blue (...) (25 years ago, 23-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I'd say "yes" there are. (...) This seems too good to be true, but I am prepared to send my wantlist spreadsheet. (the total piece count is 110,000 pieces... I may be able to prune it back, some, maybe) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —James Brown
     (...) I'll agree that it sounds to good to be true, but I want to have my hopes dashed along with the rest of you. Which leads to the question: Is this hypothetical offer open to everyone, or just trainheads? James (URL) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Ludo Soete
     (...) I'm interested too, but is it possible to get a short discription of the parts noted here above. I can only track the numbers 4182,4033 back !! Most of my doors have *NO* number on it, and when they does,its marked on the RIGHT HAND door,not (...) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Try using the resource at this URL (URL) by looking in the TRAINS subcategory, most of the parts are there....) There is a resource that lets you look up parts by number but I can't recall what the URL for that is. Hope that is of some help (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Russell Clark
     (...) I am interested in the following. Sorry, but I don't know the part numbers. 1 pair of red train doors 2 pairs of black train doors 2 pairs of yellow train windows 2 pairs of black train windows Russell (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     If something comes of this, probably makes sense to consolidate all the orders/requests/wishes into one. Either we do it independently or Christer does. Since I communicated with him offline about a much larger (3 orders of magnitude) request, I (...) (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Russell Clark
      (...) Sounds good to me. I would love to buy dozens of doors and windows, but I only need a few to complete some projects. And besides, I don't have the money. Russell (25 years ago, 24-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Christopher Masi
     Hi Larry and everyone else, Looking at the news group and counting myself, it looks like there are only six people interested. I hope, like me, others are comminicating directly with Christer. If you are talking with Christer speak up here, please. (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Martin Legault
      (...) six (...) Hi, I sent a direct mail requesting for quite a few windows and doors. Think I'll had a few 4093 train base 6x28 and 2972 train base 6x34 both in gray Martin (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Russell Clark
      (...) I emailed him when the thread first started, but I haven't gotten a response yet. Russell (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Frank Filz
      (...) If this is real I'm definitely interested, though I don't think we should flood the newsgroup with posts. I was going to wait for more indication that this was real, and then see if someone (like Larry) made an offer to collect requests, and (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Graham Markay
      Hello All, I am very interested in ordering train windows and doors, however I too was waiting to see if someone was going to start taking requests. Graham Markay (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
      Add me to your list, So what can we expect to pay for train windows and doors? If $1.00 or $2.00 each, I'll take 20 of each in all colours provided they come with clear split glass. We also need to remember that the other hard parts to get are low (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Christopher Masi
     Sorry, I wasn't trying to ask what people wanted I was just curious about how many people were talking with Christer, and if anyone who posts to this group knew Christer since I had not seen him around before. Christopher (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —David VinZant
     (...) I am very interested in this offer. I have looked up the #s and a discription of what I am interested to order. 5x 4093 Train Base 6 x 28 - gray 2x 2876 Train Roof 6 x 6 Double Slope 45 / Slope 33 - gray 68x 6556 Train Window 1 x 4 x 3 New - (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Kevin Wilson
     I'm very interested in the train windows (especially in white) doors (white) and bases. If this really gets off the ground, count me in. Kevin (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Peter Haughton
     I would also be interested in buying several train doors and windows. I am not familiar with the piece numbers but I have been looking through the recommended web page: (URL) that page I have found the 4181, 4182, 4033, 4035, 4511 parts. Does anyone (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     No more posts on this topic please. I don't want to go into too much detail but I have strong reason to believe the following to be true (am I certain? No. but I have strong reason) - This is a legitimate thing. Someone within TLG has received (...) (25 years ago, 25-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Jeff Stembel
      (...) I just want to straighten some things out in my mind. Are you planning on ordering a bunch of these pieces and then selling them, or are you going to take prepaid orders? If you aren't going to take prepaid orders, can we send a pledge of, (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
      A consortium is being assembled. Stuff will be sold at one price within the consortium. To make allowances for people wanting more, or less, parts than the dollar amount they invested, that price will be at a markup from cost. Whatever parts are (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Jeff Stembel
       (...) So, in other words, If I want to buy the items rather than participate in the auction, I have to put up $500? I'm just trying to figure out how I'd go about getting items I want. :) Jeff (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
        Yes. If you wish to get the consortium price you have to participate in the consortium. Those not willing to risk enough of their funds will not reap the reward of paying less than the market will bear. (or take the risk of losing their funds (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Train doors and windows —Matt Nourot
        (...) I'm willing to pool funds to form a "sub-consortium" with those not ready to commit the full 500. (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Train doors and windows —John DiRienzo
         Matt, I am probably interested in your "sub-consortium" but I still haven't figured out what parts are in question. Depending on how many of the parts I actually want makes a big difference on how much I am willing to pitch in. So, could someone (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Train doors and windows —Alan Demlow
        The parts are train doors (L & R), 2x3 and 4x3 train windows, the glass to go with the windows and doors (these are separate #'s), and old-style sliding doors as in 7722 (I think) and accompanying track pieces. Color is unknown, at least to me, but (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Train doors and windows —Patricia Schempp
       (...) about (...) No, the consorttium would SELL them first. Then auction off the leftovers. You don't have to do anything. Patricia Schempp (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
     
          (canceled) —John DiRienzo
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Tamyra Teed
      Or even Red ones???? (...) (25 years ago, 27-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
     Hey Larry, This consortium, is it a group of like minded cashed up profiteering middle men or a group who are genuinely trying to get the best deal for the rest of us? Just curious. So if the price per piece is > $1.00 and < $5.00, is it closer to (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Probably neither. It's a group willing to take a risk to satisfy their own needs, and then make available the surplus to those not willing to take that risk through a fair allocation method, that is, what the market will bear. The amount (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mike Stanley
     (...) Well, outside of the specifics of the private contract between the consortium members, I think this whole topic is of a potentially HUGE interest to just about everyone who reads here. Unless I throw my $500 in I don't care what you pay per (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Adam Howard
      Hi LUGNET Community members, Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7sgjqo.7ai....UTK.EDU... (...) I was going to pledge $500 towards this idea, but when I discovered we were not going to be able to even suggest parts, that (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Mike Stanley
       (...) Just to be clear, either you don't agree with me or I'm misunderstanding what you're saying here and later on. I have absolutely NO desire to change, adjust, alter, or anything else, this deal going through with Larry's coordination. He's only (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
      
           Sub Consortium - $50 each (Was: Train doors and windows) —Asher Kobin
        I would like to create a sub-consortium of 10 people commiting $50 each. If you are interested please send me email at asherk@pobox.com. I will take the first 9 people and no more. See the below email for details. -- Asher ======LarryP Said===...=== (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Train doors and windows —Todd Lehman
        (...) I'm just a bystander here (not participating in the consortium) so I'm not in possession of many facts, but it's worth noting is that the discussion actually started 5 days ago in .trains and has only recently wandered into other groups like (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: Train doors and windows —Adam Howard
       Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote in message news:slrn7sgvsb.7be....UTK.EDU... (...) I (...) what's (...) us. (...) Neither do I. My main reason for sending out the suggestion was to ensure a better success rate. IMO as money offered (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
      Hi Adam, I think its all academic until we know the price per part or per run of a part. What we then need is not a pledge of money but of the number of each part people want and therefore how many runs of that part will be needed. This consortium (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
     
          (canceled) —Larry Pieniazek
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Mike Stanley
      (...) That's extremely offensive. YOU auction things to make money. You could just as easily describe what I do (buy lots of copies of sets on clearance, keep what I want out of them, then auction the rest) as "flogging" the rest of you for a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Except for the fact that I have spoken to Christer on the phone one time, and that he faxed me some information from TLG, both facts being things that increased my confidence that this might happen, but which added no other information, (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Adam Howard
     Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> wrote in message news:37C8AAA8.7AE750...ger.net... (...) (Snip) (...) No, I've never done a large deal before, but I don't see the flaws. Could you point them out so they could be corrected? As far as the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Paul Foster
     (...) The above statement appears to be the whole problem with your proposal. I predict you will get 100 different people who want a total of 95 different parts, leaving your deal to die due to lack of interest. I think the train deal will work (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Adam Howard
     Paul Foster <pfoster@execpc.com> wrote in message news:37C97602.C9458A...cpc.com... (...) spread (...) You must not have read this thread all the way through. Parts would only be ordered in lots that TLG would be willing to do it for. Adam (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Christian Holtje
     (...) I'd be interested. Doors and train windows are always wanted. And the boxcar doors and rails....I need to look this up somewhere. Dang. I need time too. Ciao! (25 years ago, 26-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
     OK, it's time for another update. I am copying Christer, who is weekending in Germany, as well as several LUGNET(tm) groups. The following facts may be of interest - A consortium is forming to create the largest order we can. - I am the lead partner (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
      (...) Pardon the ignorance, but is the RISK? You get your money back if the deal falls thru or you get the parts from lego, where's the risk? Mark H (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
      Answered offline. I won't be discussing this publicly. (...) (25 years ago, 28-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
     Hi Larry, Its always good to get ones intentions out in the open. My concern is that someone has encouraged Christian in Denmark to deal with people in the 500 club to the exclusion of all others, tell me I'm wrong. Why can't interested people put (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Tom Stangl
      Let me start this out by saying I am NOT a trainhead, yet I hope to be in on this deal, because believe it or not, train windows/doors can be used for other purposes ;-) I also know nothing more about the deal that what has been posted in here, but (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —John Morgan
      (...) My two cents worth( admittedly not much but :::shrugging shoulders:::: what the the hey...) I am not a train head either, but any part can be used in any model :) . I am still what I consider a "novice" to the art of Lego so please allow me a (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) You're wrong, near as I can tell. Christer (ER, not IAN) told me he was getting bombarded with mail, told me that too much uproar would sour the deal and get his friend in trouble and cause it not to happen. Keep it up. (...) Go ahead. No one (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Patricia Schempp
      (...) I think your repeated mean spirited posts are what is slimy here. Why not let the blood pressure drop for awhile? This is the first *possibility* of an order from TLG so why do you want to push it? Please just wait and see how and if it goes (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
      It would appear that as normal my ISP is isn't getting all the threads about this thing, and I'm therefore getting the wrong impression. I wish to apologize for sounding ungrateful to people like Larry who's actions I have misinterpreted due to not (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —Mike Stanley
      (...) Hrmmm, strictly from the technical side of things, your ISP shouldn't even begin to enter into the "threads" equation here on Lugnet. Since there is only ONE server that carries the threaded discussion groups, if you can connect and read any (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
     
          Re: Train doors and windows —James Brown
      (...) this (...) for (...) due to (...) Unless (to give Mark the benefit of the doubt) he reads by e-mail and doesn't subscribe to the .trains group. In which case he only would have seen the last half (or so) of the thread. James (URL) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —Mark Harrison
     It would appear that as normal my ISP is isn't getting all the threads about this thing, and I'm therefore getting the wrong impression. I wish to apologize for sounding ungrateful to people like Larry who's actions I have misinterpreted due to not (...) (25 years ago, 29-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
    
         Re: Train doors and windows —John Battcock
     Hi all... I've been following this as well as the Secrets Revealed thread and have decided too open my mouth at the risk of saying something stupid... 1) Is anybody "Really" surprised that a bulk part ordering service was available to some? I mean (...) (25 years ago, 30-Aug-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.market.auction, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Steven Broughton
   Hi everyone, I have been attempting to follow the discussion regarding the purchase of train doors and windows from Lego, and I notice the discussion has somewhat died off. I was wondering what the status of the deal was at this point. I realize I (...) (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Train doors and windows —Larry Pieniazek
   I collected names and pledges. I have not sent out a note in a few weeks because there appears to be nothing to say! I have not heard of any new news on this in a while. I estimate there is a 1% chance something will come of this at this point. So I (...) (25 years ago, 12-Oct-99, to lugnet.trains)
 

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