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Re: Story crafting (was Re: Please read this!
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In lugnet.castle, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Matt Hein writes:
> True, but we are talking about storycraft, not castle construction. On
> reflection, publish is the right place I think. (and not o-t.geek either)
Very well.
> Yes I have. I have not read all of it but I think much of what others said
> applies. I found it hard to get the mood, hard to get into the characters
> motivations (a good story hooks you in right away and makes you want to read
> more) and somewhat overwhelmed by all the adjectives and modifiers. They get
> in the way, and if anything, confuse me.
> Let's take a few things from this section which if I understand it is an
> intro or review http://www.lugnet.com/~1112/Fantasy/Osprey (if it's not, I
> can't tell exactly where to start, you may want to consider a table of
> contents or arranging the stories one connected to the next)
Okay, I'm working on that and a small index.
> what does this mean: "conniving in his presence" Was he conniving something?
> Is conniving a mannerism? Why not say that he seemed untrustworthy or
> whatever you're trying to convey? How can a presence be conniving?
Hmm...you've got a point there. Perhaps I was
trying to convey that he was rather evasive (?)
Evasive to reveal his opinion?
> What does this mean: "Skye looked towards the alomst falconic clouds"
> How can clouds be falconic? Does it mean that she saw falcons in the images
> that we imagine clouds to contain? Or almost falcons? Or did the clouds
> somehow have some other trait that falcons possess?
Hmm...okay, the clouds were almost shaped like that
of a falcon. I was going forthe motion of comparing
the shadows projected by the clouds like that of
the shadows of a falcon's wings.
> Moreover, why does it matter? Is this a foreboding of something? How does
> this help advance the story or set the mood?
Hmm, I sense a small omittion in progress here.
I'll cut out the irrelevant detail, I believe I
was rdeundant in description.
> or this: "they had a rather flamboyant discussion at heart, I might add...”
> What makes a discussion flamboyant? I thought flamboyant was a manner of
> dress or action. It is a description of how a character looks or acts. And
> if it was flamboyant at heart, what was it at the center?
Okay, I might have worded it oddly.
The sction the militancy council had
was viewed by Dash as flamboyant.
At heart suggests that probably only
Dash found it flamboyant, but few others
did.
As you can see, this is all part of the
editing I'm doing.
> See above. Do you have an outline of what you want the entire story to
> accomplish? What are the major actions of the characters during it as the
> events unfold? What things does the reader need to know up front? How are
> you going to expose them without it being a lecture? What things does the
> reader need to NOT know to maintain suspense? Do some of the characters know
> them? How are you going to prevent the reader from learning them too soon.
> Lots and lots of questions like that will help you plan your work. Don't
> answer them here. Answer them for yourself and use them as a guide to your
> work (and your editing).
> Again, the sources given you by others are good starting points. Writing
> well is hard work. It takes a lot of drafts and a lot of rewriting until you
> are so practiced that it comes naturally.
> again, not to praise OSC above all other writers, but this is an invaluable
> resource:
Well, I value your imput! These will probably
serve as rather useful techniques, so my thanks
to you.
> http://www.hatrack.com/
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> particularly this part
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> http://www.hatrack.com/writingclass/index.shtml and
> http://www.hatrack.com/writingclass/faq.shtml
>
> ++Lar
I think by now it's obvious this story is rather
a very rough draft.
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Fellow lego enthusiast
O s p r e y
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| (...) Great. Now, a note... The samples I picked were just that, samples. I chose a few to illustrate a point, not that if you fix these you're all set. They're characteristic of much of the work that I read. (...) You're often better off not (...) (22 years ago, 23-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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| (...) If you're writing science fiction/fantasy, take a look at the Usenet newsgroup rec.arts.sf.composition. There are some really great people there and a lot of good advice. You can find it via Google Groups if you don't have Usenet access... (...) (22 years ago, 24-Dec-02, to lugnet.publish)
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