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      Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... 
> In lugnet.trains.org, Kevin Wilson writes: 
> > Todd Lehman wrote in message ... 
> > >  
> > > Wow, that's kind of surprising to hear.  I've been meaning to ask, as  this 
> > > thread has unfolded...  Are women allowed in LEGO train clubs, or is it a 
> > > boys-only thing? 
>  
> > What he said. 
>  
> He didn't say anything. 
 
See Todd's reply. 
 
> > The organisation is a great idea, but I'd rather see Congress 
> > than Brotherhood. Why be gratuitously exclusive when it's not necessary? 
 
I could have worded this better. I know no-one wants to exclude women from 
the organisation. What I meant was, why use exclusive language when it's not 
necessary. 
 
> The BLE has female members. 
>  
> Further, clubs don't even HAVE a gender, it's a brotherhood of CLUBS not of 
> club members. 
 
Since clubs don't have a gender, why use a gender-specific word to describe 
a group of them? The BLE is not a parallel: that's a group of *people* who 
at the time the group was founded, were probably all male. 
 
> Why be gratuitiously PC when it's not necessary? 
 
It's hard to comment at all on some subjects without being accused of being 
PC. I'm commenting here because I have a personal interest in exclusionary 
language. Calling me "PC" isn't going to stop me doing the "stand up and be 
counted" bit when I see something I disagree with. 
 
Kevin 
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  |  (...) He didn't say anything. (...) The BLE has female members. Further, clubs don't even HAVE a gender, it's a brotherhood of CLUBS not of club members. Why be gratuitiously PC when it's not necessary? ++Lar    (25 years ago, 27-Feb-01, to lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.us.nelug)   
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